Norwegian Web Gear

Was also going to comment about the maker at least being German.

What about both the M1943 type folding E Tools,any markings on either as I have a couple with no markings whatsoever and cannot place them as either Dutch,Belgian or Norgi maybe?

Found these two pictures in an old army handbook from 1985 I have. It's the basic version of the web gear and just thought the drawings are cool.

NorBn wrote:Found these two pictures in an old army handbook from 1985 I have. It's the basic version of the web gear and just thought the drawings are cool.

Very cool! It shows us the proper way to set up the web gear. Please post more, it looks as though the page on the right has some more instructions on load outs.

Yes, these are very useful!

Next page is basicly a description of what goes into the smaller back pack used on patrols. The pages shown here are the more detailed ones, the other ones not so

Thank you - this is excellent, as it shows the correct way to roll the shelter half and fasten it to the rucksack. Now just need to find the correct Norwegian mess kit.

Same thing for me with the shelter quarter!  I have several of these and now I know how to fold them in a way that even a Norwegian drill sergeant could respect

Interesting that the tent pegs, poles, and rope were not rolled into the shelter quarter. I think of that as standard practice.

Steve

Wolverine wrote:Thank you - this is excellent, as it shows the correct way to roll the shelter half and fasten it to the rucksack. Now just need to find the correct Norwegian mess kit.

Agreed! Thanks so much! Interesting how they show to put the mags in the jacket pockets. I guess that was standard among many European armies at that time. Now I just need to find those lift the tab ammo pouches!!

Glad you like it, the illustration says that any empty magazines goes into right the pocket of the field jacket, the left was for the hood and protective gloves used in case of a gas attack. We also carried what was called a "nuclear brush" that we should use to remove the dust covering the uniform after a nuclear attack Usually this was used for brushing off snow on the uniform, tents and other items.

The famous "nuclear brush", a must in the Norwegian military during the Cold War

Also with the Canadian Forces too - the 1964 pattern webbing had no FN C1 rifle magazine pouches - the were to be carried in the combat jacket pockets.

abefroman wrote:

Wolverine wrote:Thank you - this is excellent, as it shows the correct way to roll the shelter half and fasten it to the rucksack. Now just need to find the correct Norwegian mess kit.

Agreed! Thanks so much! Interesting how they show to put the mags in the jacket pockets. I guess that was standard among many European armies at that time. Now I just need to find those lift the tab ammo pouches!!

Very neat - I will need to find one to complete my kit.

NorBn wrote:The famous "nuclear brush", a must in the Norwegian military during the Cold War

Wow nice set up, I really need to find them but I can never find Norwegian stuff. I do have some photos though so here they are.

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Great pics thanks!

NorBn wrote:Found these two pictures in an old army handbook from 1985 I have. It's the basic version of the web gear and just thought the drawings are cool.

Can you take a picture of the cover? Or can you tell me the name? I would like to get one.

Gulf91 wrote:What about both the M1943 type folding E Tools,any markings on either as I have a couple with no markings whatsoever and cannot place them as either Dutch,Belgian or Norgi maybe?

My Norwegian M1943 type shovels have no markings, although some US manufactured ones can probably be found in Norwegian surplus.

Hi guys.

My name is Bernt, this is my first post here. Looks like an interesting forum.
I collect mainly cold war era Homeguard gear, but I also have some older norwegian militaria.
In Norway few collectors care much for the post war stuff.

What is the best way to post pics. on this forum?

Wolverine: I've read somewere that the unmarked folding showels were made in Belgium or Holland. I don't think any were made in Norway. You can also find US marked ones and the german "Klappspaten 38" among the surplus. All painted in the same olive green. I have one marked "US Ames 1945", two germans marked 1941, and two straight showels of unknow origin, also painted olive green. The hangers are mostly US, but norwegian made ones are around as well. When I was in the army in the mid 90's, most of us got the old e-tools with the wooden handles. They were a P.I.T.A when running etc. We used to break them as often as we could, in hope of getting the "new" all metal showel.

Fallout: That's some interesting pics. Some of them are from the Vassdalen tragedy in 1986. 16 norwegian soldiers were killed by an avalanche during the Nato exercise Anchor express.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0165232X88900602
http://tsforum.event123.no/nkvts/2009/pop.cfm?FuseAction=Doc&pAction=View&pDocumentId=20954

Here's some more links with footage and pics.

This is from an Airforce NCO school. Tons of pics. to be found in the menue to the left.
http://www.lutvatnskolene.com/48182289
http://www.lutvatnskolene.com/48182294

Here's loads of pics. from ww2 through the cold war. Also some captions in english.
http://www.spycom.org/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmR3625evTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqU2M9ScC74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvUfMNT2zlY

Thanks for the feedback B.M.F., and for the great links!

B.M.F wrote:Hi guys.
What is the best way to post pics. on this forum?

HI BMF, would love to see some of your gear, or if you are you are selling?

Anyone the easiest way to post is it to click the button with the floppy disk up above here. Then browse for your photo, click upload, wait a few seconds and it will show you 3 links. Copy and paste the middle link into the forum and you should be good to go. Let me know if you have any trouble.

Let's try with a pic. of some of my Homeguard stuff.

Allright. It works!

Super cool gear! Do the K-98 pouches have any Norwegian markings added to them?

B.M.F wrote:Let's try with a pic. of some of my Homeguard stuff.

Allright. It works!

None of the K98K pouches I've seen or heard of, have any norwegian markings. But some can exist though. You can find various US, British, german (zeltbahns etc..), swedish etc.. ww2 gear and uniforms with postwar norwegian markings in them. Usually a rectangular box with the word "HÆREN", meaning "THE ARMY". Some are marked "HEIMEVERNET" or "HV" for the Homeguard. I've also seen a pair of ww2 german Wachtstiefeln marked "KYSTARTILLERIET" (Coastal artillery).

Some comments to some above posts:

The missing canteen in one of the pics: During winter excersises we used to keep the canteen under the jacket. It hung in a string around the neck. This was to keep the water from freezing. We would refill with snow, but it took the whole day to melt.

The drawings from "Soldaten i felt" shows to put the empty magazines in the pocket. The way it was done on battle excersises, was to keep the zipper on the jacket half way open, and just stuff the empty mags inside.

Here's the 1960 edt. of this book: http://www.scribd.com/doc/140837179/Soldaten-i-felt-1963-UD-17-2

1985 edt., but look like a poor xerox copy: http://documents.tips/documents/ud-17-02-soldaten-i-felt.html

Thank you for sharing these bits of information - it is fascinating that so many different types of equipment were recycled by the Norwegian forces after 1945.

Also, the links for the books are extremely useful! Thanks again for sharing these.

B.M.F wrote:None of the K98K pouches I've seen or heard of, have any norwegian markings. But some can exist though. You can find various US, British, german (zeltbahns etc..), swedish etc.. ww2 gear and uniforms with postwar norwegian markings in them. Usually a rectangular box with the word "HÆREN", meaning "THE ARMY". Some are marked "HEIMEVERNET" or "HV" for the Homeguard. I've also seen a pair of ww2 german Wachtstiefeln marked "KYSTARTILLERIET" (Coastal artillery).

Some comments to some above posts:

The missing canteen in one of the pics: During winter excersises we used to keep the canteen under the jacket. It hung in a string around the neck. This was to keep the water from freezing. We would refill with snow, but it took the whole day to melt.

The drawings from "Soldaten i felt" shows to put the empty magazines in the pocket. The way it was done on battle excersises, was to keep the zipper on the jacket half way open, and just stuff the empty mags inside.

Here's the 1960 edt. of this book: http://www.scribd.com/doc/140837179/Soldaten-i-felt-1963-UD-17-2

1985 edt., but look like a poor xerox copy: http://documents.tips/documents/ud-17-02-soldaten-i-felt.html