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    Post by abefroman on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:07 pm

    Well I finally managed to find the "lift the tab" mag pouches. I also managed to find the Norwegian M58 Helmet.

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    I figured I would also show it with my Norwegian Kevlar helmet.

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    Post by Bolty717 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:19 pm

    What hold the tab in place on the ammo pouches? Is it just a tight fit or is there something we cant see?
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    Post by abefroman on Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:45 am

    Bolty717 wrote:What hold the tab in place on the ammo pouches? Is it just a tight fit or is there something we cant see?

    Just a tight fit. The tabs just slide through the horizontal strip of cloth. Let me know if you want to see more up close pictures.
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    Post by Bolty717 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:22 pm

    Cheers makes sense, wonder if them opening when you least wanted them to with a full mag was an issue. I've spent plenty of times up the wrong way etc with empty mags and they will fall out of a open pouch given a chance.
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    Post by abefroman on Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:44 am

    Bolty717 wrote:Cheers makes sense, wonder if them opening when you least wanted them to with a full mag was an issue. I've spent plenty of times up the wrong way etc with empty mags and they will fall out of a open pouch given a chance.

    I will say that I am not sure how the pouches stay on the belt. They only slide on over the belt but there is nothing preventing them from sliding around or off the belt. There is a P37 metal belt hook attachment on the pouch but there is no where to hook it into this US-style pistol belt.
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    Post by NorBn on Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:00 am

    I have never experienced these pouches opening by themselves, but when they got soaked they could be hard to open and sometimes it was kind of difficult to get the magazines out. Good looking setup by the way, looks nice.
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    Post by Bolty717 on Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:36 am

    Sounds like the issues the Brits had with 58 Pattern when it got wet. Cotton-water-shrinkage.
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    Post by fallout on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:57 pm

    Could you please get a picture of the back side of the ammo pouches?
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    Post by fallout on Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:58 am

    Have a few more pictures to share with you.

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    I don't know the dates but all are 80s I believe
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    Post by fallout on Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:03 am

    A few more

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    I dont know if these were posted or not, im sorry if they have been.

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    Post by B.M.F on Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:19 am

    Why not remane this thread to "web gear and fieldgear"?

    Here's my e-tools. A lot of stuff was recycled after WW2. I have here two german "Klappspaten 38", two US M43 folding shovels and two straight ones which I'm now pretty sure is polish. They were brought here by ze germans during WW2, and later painted olive green by the norwegian army. Notice how the german handles have a more ball shaped ending compared to the US version. One of the polish shovels have had it's handle replaced with a german one at some point. The one with the longer handle has it's original, and it has the word "KRES" stamped on it. The markings on the german tools are hard to see under the paint, but one is clearly marked "agv 41". One US shovel came in a hanger I thought was interesting with all the stamps. Turned out it had two different stamps from the danish civic defence (Civilforsvaret). One stamp is a circle with: "C.F.M.L" and a crown. The other is stamped over and reads: "C.F.".

    Unfortunately these e-tools are getting rare, as most people strip of the paint, and sell them to those who collect german militaria.

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    Post by Wolverine on Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:57 pm

    That is a very interesting selection of tools there.
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    Post by michelwijnand on Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:16 pm

    I forgot where it was posted, but there were some of the M45 type suspenders somewhere that had different material, and a bit of a question where it could have come from.
    Since it was otherwise very much like the Norwegian ones, I'll post this here, as it might be the same, though I can't compare, since I don't know where the photos of it were posted anymore.

    I just found this on ebay, marked made in japan:
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    Post by Wolverine on Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:57 pm

    It was me who posted them. I think they are different from the Japanese ones. I think the ones I have may be euro made to go with the widely used prc10 radio harness.
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    Post by Glencoe on Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:08 am

    I' saw literally dozens of the norwegian folding shovels in a dutch surplus store recently. I try to keep to dutch stuff only so I didn't pay them much attention, but if someone is interested I can share the location/ website.
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    Post by michelwijnand on Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:05 am

    Really? Where? Did they have covers? All I see here are US, Dutch and Danish ones.
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    Post by Glencoe on Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:38 am

    I'm not quite certain how they are. The store probably just bought a load from Norway to sell to the public. They have a crate full of them, but you can order online (not sure how about shippig outside the Netherlands). Here is a link to the product page.
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    Post by Wolverine on Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:29 am

    The shovel in the picture does not necessarily look like a typical Norwegian example as far as I can see. Are they US-made with Norwegian paint?

    Looks like that shop has some nice bins to dig through...
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    Post by michelwijnand on Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:43 pm

    I've been there a few times, there's actually not that much cool stuff to be found anymore.
    Most stuff is normal Dutch PSU stuff, and then a slight bit of quite standard foreign stuff.
    And some things are really pricy.
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    Post by Wolverine on Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:48 pm

    Ok, I don't feel as sad anymore that I can't dive in.
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    Post by Ostravak on Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:44 am

    Good afternoon,
    the Norwegian army used ex US M36 (M43) suspenders and pistol belts however were used also the US musettes M36?
    Thank you for your reply
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    Post by Wolverine on Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:36 am

    It is possible, but I have never seen any proof.
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    Post by michelwijnand on Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:04 pm

    Lucky find today, a Norwegian shovelpouch, do thes always have the beltloop on the back below the belthooks?
    The characteristic white leather inside gave it away since there are no markings in it.

    Wasn't the green leather MP40 pouch also something Norwegian?
    The rest in the pic isn't, I'll be covering the Danish bit sin the Denmark section.

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    Post by Wolverine on Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:44 pm

    The belt loop is typical. There is another pattern that has the three-way adjustable belt hook, like on the original US model.
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    Post by michelwijnand on Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:21 pm

    Great, thanks. Now I'll just need to find a belt, old type magpouches, gasmask and bag, tent half and pants and my kit is done!

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