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    Post by belgium_one on Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:13 pm

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    military or civilian ?

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    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:11 pm

    Looks like a civi version to me just from the tags. The issue desert set i have had different ones. But i am.no spanish expert
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    Post by mylle on Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:45 pm

    I would also say its one of the commercial sets out there.The tags are usually white IIRC.
    The woodland jacket breast and arm pockets also should be pleated.But that doesn't mean it isn't worn by Spanish soldiers.
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    Post by fourtycoats on Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:51 pm

    They are not military issue suits but, in my opinion, made in the same factory to identical specs and the only difference is the labels. I have both suits,desert and temperate cammo, with and without, military labels and I cannot see any difference between the military labelled suits and the civilian labelled suit.
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    Post by ripcord on Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:29 pm

    belgium_one wrote:Hello

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    Both these sets are commercially made.  Apart from the tags, they are near identical to issue, especially the desert version.

    The commercial temperate version has different sleeve and chest pocket design from the issue type while commercial desert version have  sleeve and chest pockets like  issue desert type.


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    Post by ripcord on Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:28 pm

    Alex had it right in post #3



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    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:03 pm

    Thanks for the reference pics!

    The Spanish are pretty consistent about using their own sizing system. Besides the black based tags looking civilian and not at all traditional Spanish, the "XXL" size mark was enough for me to conclude it is commercial. Civilian looking manufacturing logo also is a dead giveaway. As Rip's last picture shows, the Spanish label of 2018 looks pretty similar to the Spanish labels made since the 1980s an in some respects earlier.

    The pleated chest pockets brings up a question. Has the pleated pocket design of the temperate uniform worked its way into the desert uniforms yet?

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    Post by ripcord on Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:27 pm

    I dont believe current Desert blouses have pleated chest and arm pockets at this time.

    The pictured blouse was acquired from a serving member of the Spanish armed forces and is an issue item.

    The familiar white tag confirms it is an issue piece.  BUT....Under that tag there is another tag that shows this blouse to be a non Spanish made piece.   ( Zurich , Switzerland  )

    Very strange; have not seen that before.    Also, there is padding in the shoulder area; consistent with Spanish blouses of the past.   No padding is present in the commercially made temperate blouse in my possession.


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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:04 pm

    I definitely want to get the Marines type at some point!

    In my collection is an unissued desert set that I got in the very early days of it being issued. The white tag is a little different than yours, but beneath it is also the Swiss tag. So it would seem these uniforms have been made in Switzerland since the start.

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    Post by ripcord on Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:40 am

    Would love to see a Marines blouse in temperate pattern...If they even exist.
    Also like the lightweight shirts with snaps on chest pockets.

    Never imagined Switzerland would be the source of Spanish combat uniforms..
    Read somewhere recently that  some Spanish uniforms are also made by Seyntex.


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    Post by ripcord on Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:54 pm

    Current ACU type blouse .

    Note manufacturer's tag .


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    Post by ripcord on Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:34 pm

    Recent acquisition.  


    Very nicely made with good attention to detail ; lightweight ripstop  fabric, unlike the heavy cottons of the commercial types.

     Canadian type buttons throughout the uniform.  Some current Spanish uniforms are being manufactured in Switzerland as this one is.

    The cut is the official Spanish cut and it came with a Velcro backed Spanish flag.





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    Post by mylle on Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:57 pm

    BTW: The Tag which shows TESTEX Zurich should mean that the fabric was produced and tested according to some special ecological rules and standards. The company Testex is a global textil-testing and certifying business. So it doesn't mean that the fabric was produced in Switzerland. Don't want to be the smarta§§ but it's an interesting note. I have some work clothing with the same Testex label in German.
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    Post by ripcord on Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:13 pm

    Alex,

    That is good info.

    Just does not make sense for a country that has always produced their own uniforms to now outsource their uniform contracts.

    Now that I look , even in my non existing German/Spanish I can see that it's basically a certification statement of non toxicity of the textile. ...

    This is how info gets around.. Thanks.

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