Question about italian woodland camo

Hi everyone.

Does somebody knows the real name of the italian Woodland uniform?

I saw sometime Uniforme Da Combattimento Policroma mod 92 and I wonder if it is the normal appellation.

Thanks.

Best Regards

Mellon

HI!

Hope my answer will be still useful to you.

You're right! That's the right name.
Also the desert-type uniform was called with the same id. so they used to call it "Somalia" by its largest use during Restore Hope

Correct, but let's not forget that there is M90 and M92 for both woodland and desert. I presume the earlier M90 was called Uniforme Da Combattimento Policroma mod 90?

The major difference is the M90 jacket has no arm pockets, the M92 has a pocket on each sleeve. The chest of the M92 also has a horizontal loop on the right breast. IIRC the trousers are the same.

Steve

Hi Steve!

You're right! I forgot that.

I believe you mean this, don't you?



Never undestand what is its real name, I know it was used by paras troops for a few years




(PS: firsrt pic: they are the "Squadrone Eliportato Carabinieri Cacciatori", a Carabinieri's anti-mafia corp. Second pic: col moschin)


Happy Easter to all!

No, that's the airborne uniform. I think it is M87.

Hmm. Maybe there is no M90 Woodland after all? I checked my collection and I don't seem to have one.

For desert, however, there absolutely is a M90. It is identical to the M92 except it has no pockets on the sleeves and no loop over the right breast. Maybe some other minor differences in the jackets. I think the trousers are the same except that for M90 the pockets are closed with hidden buttons and for M92 it is velcro.

Steve

AAAWW Yes!

I've already heard something like this but I don't know other... even the correct name.

Yes, the one in my pics was only for paratroops units and only used for a few years.
If it will be useful they sometimes use to call it "Monteromano", wich is the name of a place where they used to do trainings... but never understood the link...

Greetings

-Jäger- wrote:

Hi!
How do you think - was there any influence of the Swiss jacket cut (breast pockets with slash zippers) and left sleeve zippered pocket??

The shape of the Swiss-style pockets can be seen on the pic above.

Border guards have both such chest pockets of the same shape, not only one on the right side, as army have.

Intersting observation!

I don't know much about swiss uniforms but notice that the italian one wich you indicates was introduced in late'80s / 1990

Stefano

Good observation! I like the theory, but in reverse. I think the Swiss uniform was influenced by the Italian *or* both were influenced by something else. The construction is very similar, but the Italian uniform came first so definitely not Italians copying the Swiss.

Steve

I agree!

Steve, Stefano,
Thank you for your comments!

I agree with you both, with mutual influence of the ideas, and that Italians are recognized designers of numerous very interesting ideas and concepts!

Swiss Grenzwache jacket... One can see the chest pockets, which look similar to the Italian M92 jacket:

The design of these zippered pockets goes back to at least the 1950s with the Bundeswehr airborne Splinter uniform.



There are others who have used this type of pocket design, or something similar. Look at Danish M84 for example. Certainly the 1950s/1960s Spanish airborne uniforms since they are nearly direct copies.

Looking at this again, it seems the design influences are much older than the Italian 1980s airborne uniform. However, the specific details of the Swiss pocket construction match pretty closely to the specific design of the Italian pockets, which is slightly different from things like the Bundeswehr Splinter uniform. So I think it's still a good idea to think that the Swiss uniform was influenced by the Italian uniform, but the Italian uniform was influenced by others before it.

Steve

Thank you, Steve for sharing your thouhts and ideas - I definitely agree.

I wear the Swiss Grenzwache jacket as a casual wear, and in my opinion such definite shaped pockets are quite comfortable in use.

Besides, I have almost the same jacket with the same shaped pockets and the same cut, but black in color, with velcro-fastened hidden light-reflecting
"POLICE" (yes, in English) patch on the backside.

This fact shows that the chest-pockets of such shape are used not only in the Swiss armed forces, but at least by Boarder Guards and some police squads.

Yup, it's pretty common for law enforcement uniforms showing influence from military uniforms. In your case, the Swiss police jacket also has the straps to secure to the trousers, just like the Swiss uniforms since the 1980s. That's a very unusual feature!

Steve