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    Post by abefroman on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:18 pm

    This is the 1990s Alice style Italian web gear. I'm not sure what I am missing but I know I am missing something. Curious what the prior pattern consisted of.

    Does anyone know what the D ring on the belt is for?

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    Post by Wolverine on Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:23 pm

    I haven't managed to lay hands on any of the Italian ALICE gear yet, but I think there is nylon belt, closer to the US type, that was made for this gear. I am not certain if the belt you have there is Italian, but more than likely the D-ring is intended to mate up with the rear strap of a set of braces. Could this belt be Turkish?
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    Post by abefroman on Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:14 pm

    Wolverine wrote:I haven't managed to lay hands on any of the Italian ALICE gear yet, but I think there is nylon belt, closer to the US type, that was made for this gear. I am not certain if the belt you have there is Italian, but more than likely the D-ring is intended to mate up with the rear strap of a set of braces. Could this belt be Turkish?

    According this Italian thread, it is Italian. Still wonder what suspenders that ring attaches to.
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    Post by abefroman on Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:04 pm

    Just picked this up. Not sure if it police issue or what but I was told it is Italian.

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    Post by abefroman on Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:08 pm

    These are some very interesting Italian ALICE pouches I picked up. I am assuming they made these for Iraq but switched to the LB vest system, as I have never seen pictures of them in use.

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    Post by Wolverine on Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:13 pm

    The pistol belt set is police-issue I believe. The desert stuff is nice, and I have seen some various other types of Italian pouches in the desert shade, mostly similar to the green ALICE type webbing.
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    Post by abefroman on Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:02 pm

    Wolverine wrote:The pistol belt set is police-issue I believe. The desert stuff is nice, and I have seen some various other types of Italian pouches in the desert shade, mostly similar to the green ALICE type webbing.

    Any idea what the suspenders here are? It looks like it was used in Mozambique in 1993. Notice they are much thinner than the standard ALICE ones.

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    Post by abefroman on Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:06 pm

    I have also not seen the pouch set up either. Hopefully some of our Italian members can help.

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    Here are some more of the "thin" suspenders.
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    Post by Wolverine on Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:19 pm

    Here are some of the ALICE items I have located so far:
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    Post by Wolverine on Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:20 pm

    contractor label from suspenders:
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    Post by Wolverine on Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:21 pm

    magazine pouches without grenade pockets:
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    Post by Wolverine on Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:22 pm

    contractor label from a magazine pouch:
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    Post by Wolverine on Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:25 pm

    canteen and carrier, less cup:
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    Post by abefroman on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:24 pm

    Here are my desert Italian pouches. These used in Somalia and Mozambique. I will post some pictures of them in use when I can find them. Note that they are very similar to the OD ALICE pouches with the addition of a snap to secure the closure.

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    Post by abefroman on Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:04 pm

    Here are the desert pouches on Italian 9th Paras in Somalia.

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    Post by Wolverine on Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:25 pm

    Here is a San Marco belt (still looking for the suspenders and ammunition pouches that go with it), and first aid pouch, obviously patterned after the US GI type. I am not sure what the D-ring is for.

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    Post by abefroman on Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:41 pm

    Maybe the D ring is for a life vest connection??? Any idea what the suspenders look like?
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    Post by Wolverine on Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:24 pm

    From the poor quality photos I have seen, they are essentially similar to the 1937 pattern (as are the magazine pouches), but made from a darker canvas, like the belt. However, photos also exist of these older belts used with the newer style ALICE gear, like the set you posted at the top of the thread.
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    Post by abefroman on Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:27 pm

    Belt was apparently specially made for the G.O.I. "Incursori" of the COMSUBIN. Still don't know what the loop is for.

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    Post by abefroman on Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:44 pm

    I was finally able to locate the Italian web gear used by the Alpini in Mozambique 1993-1994 (shown in pictures above). Apparently it was experimental. If anyone has additional information, would love to know more. Also shown is the desert flak vest they generally used in Mozambique.

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    Post by Wolverine on Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:18 pm

    Nice find there!
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    Post by Camonut314 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:08 pm

    I NEED THAT FLAK VEST!!!! (or an OD one, please)

    Love that canvas LBV too.
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    Post by abefroman on Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:15 am

    Camonut314 wrote:I NEED THAT FLAK VEST!!!! (or an OD one, please)

    Love that canvas LBV too.

    Working on a Somalia display?
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    Post by Camonut314 on Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:50 pm

    That obvious?
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    Post by abefroman on Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:01 pm

    Camonut314 wrote:That obvious?

    Only place they wore that vest in both green and desert camo. What do you have so far? Is there a particular unit you are looking to recreate?

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