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    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:32 pm

    Hi all,

    I got this several years ago in a trade. It does not look like the standard trousers I have. Heavier weight and it has nylon reinforcements at the cuffs. Probably other differences I'm not remembering. I'm curious what it is because it appears to be genuine issue.

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    Re: Help identify these trousers

    Post by Philip on Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:18 am

    Do they have one or two rear pockets?


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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:53 am

    Crud! I put it away tonight during a big cleaning and I'm not sure where it went! I think it was just the one pocket on the right side. And it's an open pocket. No flap, button, snap, velcro, etc.

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    Post by Philip on Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:08 am

    Ok, I can't really help you but except the pocket flap the look the same as the new cut rip stop version:



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    Post by saltefanden on Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:18 am

    Hey Steve,

    I suspect the trousers could be from the Norwegian Home Guards? The tag certainly looks legit.

    Out of all the M/75 jackets I have, the Home Guard one stands clearly our in the colour of the print (a more overall light brown scheme), and it has a different tag, like yours, lacking the shield-shape army stamp.

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    Post by alphaproduction on Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:33 am

    looks like M98 toruser non riptop for me.
    Since the M98 have a more faded color than the M75. But then the cutting is sort of different

    Without looking at all side i can't say for sure, here is an example of each version from M-75 - M2002


    This is M2002 RipTop



    This is M2000 Jungle



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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:06 pm

    The reason I posted this is because the cut isn't like anything else I've seen. The colors aren't really relevant to ID'ing this.

    The three primary feature differences are:

    1. Pointed leg pocket flaps vs. straight
    2. No covered rear pocket vs. covered
    3. Nylon reinforcement around the pant cuffs vs. unreinforced

    The features make me think this is some sort of limited issue designed for use with the m75 coat.

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    Post by alphaproduction on Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:55 pm

    lol....that's what i was saying, the color look lik M75 but the cutting isn't.........
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    Post by saltefanden on Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:24 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:The reason I posted this is because the cut isn't like anything else I've seen. The colors aren't really relevant to ID'ing this.

    Mmmmh, yes. Sorry.
    I really should stop all this guessing and assumeing...
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    Post by NorBn on Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:55 am

    It's probably a civillian version of the M75 trousers and these are used in some units (especially in the Home Guard), even though it's not authorized. The only two field uniforms authorized are these, called F1 and F2:
    http://www.webstaff.no/131000%20Army%20Field%20Dresses/031101.htm

    http://www.webstaff.no/131000%20Army%20Field%20Dresses/031104.htm

    The equipment used by the Home Guard and the Army is the same, so there is no way you can tell if a uniform came from the Army or Home Guard (unless if it's patched, marked in any way or you know the person that used it). If it belongs in the Armed Forces system it is marked with the shield on the tag or a shield on a seperate tag, but that doesn't mean civillian stuff isn't used and that way can be part of a uniform.


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    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:30 am

    Great information!! I figured this isn't an official item because there is no shield with the date on the label. Also, the known uniforms don't look like this.

    What timeframe do you think this was made? After 2000 or before?

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    Post by NorBn on Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:05 am

    It's very difficult to date an item like this, but they have been around for some years now. I have tried to find out where items like these are sold, but came out empty.
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    Re: Help identify these trousers

    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:53 am

    Interesting. So these are not found at local surplus shops?

    I know Finland traditionally has something similar. The active armed forces gets official issued uniforms, the reserves have access only to unofficial uniforms that are nearly identical in both design and quality. But these uniforms are not easy to obtain. I don't know what it is like since the m/05 uniforms came out.

    Thanks!

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