• Post new topic
  • Reply to topic

Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Share

Gulf91
Colonel
Colonel

Age : 46
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Number of posts : 3777

Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:32 am






















avatar
Bury_Dave
Senior Lieutenant
Senior Lieutenant

Name : Dave
Age : 53
Location : Cambridge , UK
Registration date : 2012-02-14
Number of posts : 822

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Bury_Dave on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:11 am

No offence meant but with extended cuffs, replacement zipper (both incredibly poorly done too..) and cut and worn to hell, why on earth did you buy it ? Question

Gulf91
Colonel
Colonel

Age : 46
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Number of posts : 3777

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:13 am

Because unlike some who collect MINT,UNISSUED,NOS stuff I like also the used and like this sometimes abused stuff as it has some history to it unlike some item of clothing that never left the stores.

Gulf91
Colonel
Colonel

Age : 46
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Number of posts : 3777

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:16 am

And also unlike a lot of collectors I dont have the mega bucks to spend either so buy what I can afford Very Happy
avatar
ripcord
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel

Location : USA
Registration date : 2012-12-29
Number of posts : 1684

not mint

Post by ripcord on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:46 pm

Here is a para smock in decent shape

rip...

Gulf91
Colonel
Colonel

Age : 46
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Number of posts : 3777

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:22 pm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Falklands-pattern-airborne-smock-and-lightweight-trousers-/121061832059?nma=true&si=cCP23wOBySNirr67GomKin6bkJg%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Thats another reason why I have a battered old smock and not a nice shiny one.

fez
Junior Sergeant
Junior Sergeant

Name : lee
Age : 44
Location : UK
Registration date : 2011-11-26
Number of posts : 178

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by fez on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:26 pm

I must admit, i like field used kit myself Very Happy

Gulf91
Colonel
Colonel

Age : 46
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Number of posts : 3777

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:29 pm

fez wrote:I must admit, i like field used kit myself Very Happy

Cheers Lee.

Dont get me wrong,I have a few unissued items and am not knocking people that ONLY buy unissued or mint items but for me used and abused items also have their place in my collection pirat

Plus,battered,falling to pieces or not its still an early smock which counts for me Smile Smile

fez
Junior Sergeant
Junior Sergeant

Name : lee
Age : 44
Location : UK
Registration date : 2011-11-26
Number of posts : 178

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by fez on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:32 pm

So do i, but its nice to think a bit of kit was actually used in the field and as you said, not just on a shelf.
avatar
ripcord
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel

Location : USA
Registration date : 2012-12-29
Number of posts : 1684

Batter ed up

Post by ripcord on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:36 pm

An old "battered up" piece has the character a new shiny one can never have.
I was fortunate to acquire some decent pieces decades ago.

enjoy, rip...
avatar
Bury_Dave
Senior Lieutenant
Senior Lieutenant

Name : Dave
Age : 53
Location : Cambridge , UK
Registration date : 2012-02-14
Number of posts : 822

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Bury_Dave on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:36 pm

I understand not being particularly bothered whether mint or not but I was curious with this as it is obvious that it is in a condition WAY beyond acceptable use by a serving squaddie and it's not something remotely rare. It's clear it's been trashed and badly mod'd by a non serving soldier.

Rare kit you have to take what you can find / afford, but common kit, well, I was just curious. Not being wealthy myself, I find that I need to be very discerning as past experience has shown that the money I wasted on things I only bought coz it was there and cheap, was money squandered. Better to go for quality than quantity surely ?

To each their own like I said. Very Happy

Gulf91
Colonel
Colonel

Age : 46
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Number of posts : 3777

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:41 pm

"77 Pattern" Para Smocks are common-news to me : Shocked :
avatar
mk209
Sergeant
Sergeant

Location : Scotland
Registration date : 2012-05-23
Number of posts : 218

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by mk209 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:47 am

Another one here for battered used kit. I still have my very first 68 pattern jacket I ever bought waaaay back in '93 I think? (yes it still fits). It's worn and has so many repairs but it's comfortable and it came from a serving Ghurka (has his name and number in it) so it has a little bit of history and I wouldn't part with it for anything. It still gets worn.

Matt.
avatar
Easy Gee
Colonel
Colonel

Name : Gary
Age : 48
Location : UK
Registration date : 2010-06-12
Number of posts : 3591

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Easy Gee on Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:28 pm

Gulf ,my opinion for what it's worth!

I like it ,it clearly has provenance which is worth way more than some item sat on a shelf still in it's poly -bag,and yeah, it's been mucked about with,so what!

I will always prefer used kit over NOS, as it tells a story or two!

Saying that it is useful to have NOS stuff, as the labels are legible etc.

If you had spent an absolute fortune on it ( knowing you, I bet you didn't) then shame on you, but I assume you did'nt,and it was cheap to buy,so good on you.

There are similar Para smocks,down my local surplus store,with these type of non standard features,in fact I bought one awhile ago.

I can't get my head around garment fads,one minute if they are "customised,then they must show some signs of being a bit forces on the special side, next minute these type of garments are to be poo-pooed,cos they are non-standard...my advice whack a couple of SF flashes on it..bingo it's a winner Laughing

Gulf91
Colonel
Colonel

Age : 46
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Number of posts : 3777

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Gulf91 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:42 pm

Easy Gee wrote:Gulf ,my opinion for what it's worth!

I like it ,it clearly has provenance which is worth way more than some item sat on a shelf still in it's poly -bag,and yeah, it's been mucked about with,so what!

I will always prefer used kit over NOS, as it tells a story or two!

Saying that it is useful to have NOS stuff, as the labels are legible etc.

If you had spent an absolute fortune on it ( knowing you, I bet you didn't) then shame on you, but I assume you did'nt,and it was cheap to buy,so good on you.

There are similar Para smocks,down my local surplus store,with these type of non standard features,in fact I bought one awhile ago.

I can't get my head around garment fads,one minute if they are "customised,then they must show some signs of being a bit forces on the special side, next minute these type of garments are to be poo-pooed,cos they are non-standard...my advice whack a couple of SF flashes on it..bingo it's a winner Laughing

Cheers Gary Very Happy

Nope,the smock didnt cost a fortune hence why I bought it as no matter how buggered up its still a "77 Pattern" smock.I own a few NOS/UNISSUED bits and maybe if I had the financial means to do so would concentrate on a collection of said items but cannot so have to settle for what I can buy when I can afford it(2nd round of hour cuts at work certainly isnt helping Sad Sad ).

Regarding the(poorly done apparently) zip replacement and the extended sleeve/cuffs I have no idea if these were done when the smock was still in service or afterwards-maybe during the late 70s/early 80s clothing in issue was worn to destruction with QMs being not that keen to replace kit etc who knows but I guess if it served say in the Falklands and got damaged it would be a case of make do and mend?????

Either way I like it Cool Cool Cool Cool and shame I cannot do any more research regarding its use-only think I can find is that 8BTY could possibly be 8 Battery Royal Artillery which is part of or attached to(not sure)29 Commando.
avatar
Easy Gee
Colonel
Colonel

Name : Gary
Age : 48
Location : UK
Registration date : 2010-06-12
Number of posts : 3591

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Easy Gee on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:17 am

29 Commando, are based in my home town,of course they are wearing MTP now,which looks completely out of place in a City centre shopping precinct Laughing

8 Commando Bty are part of 29,it's a possibility this one was worn by a Gunner!

fez
Junior Sergeant
Junior Sergeant

Name : lee
Age : 44
Location : UK
Registration date : 2011-11-26
Number of posts : 178

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by fez on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:08 pm

I was at condor for a while,29 were the only ones allowed to wear para smocks there.

Gulf91
Colonel
Colonel

Age : 46
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Number of posts : 3777

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Gulf91 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:53 pm

So could well be from 29 Commando then Cool
avatar
nkomo
ADMIN
ADMIN

Name : Arch
Location : Kentucky, USA
Registration date : 2009-02-13
Number of posts : 3186

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by nkomo on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:11 pm

Gulf91 wrote:
fez wrote:I must admit, i like field used kit myself Very Happy

Cheers Lee.

Dont get me wrong,I have a few unissued items and am not knocking people that ONLY buy unissued or mint items but for me used and abused items also have their place in my collection pirat

Plus,battered,falling to pieces or not its still an early smock which counts for me Smile Smile

That is my collecting philosophy too. Personal taste, I much prefer used/abused items as I think they display better on a mannequin.


_________________
Always looking for Central American militaria 1965 to 1991. Especially items relating to Coronel Velasquez El Salvador Armed Forces

Gulf91
Colonel
Colonel

Age : 46
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2011-05-13
Number of posts : 3777

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Gulf91 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:20 pm

Have a 59 Pattern Denison that is in worse condition than the Para Smock Sad

Sponsored content

Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

Post by Sponsored content

  • Post new topic
  • Reply to topic

Current date/time is Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:03 am