Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

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    Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:32 am























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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Bury_Dave on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:11 am

    No offence meant but with extended cuffs, replacement zipper (both incredibly poorly done too..) and cut and worn to hell, why on earth did you buy it ? Question

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:13 am

    Because unlike some who collect MINT,UNISSUED,NOS stuff I like also the used and like this sometimes abused stuff as it has some history to it unlike some item of clothing that never left the stores.

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    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:16 am

    And also unlike a lot of collectors I dont have the mega bucks to spend either so buy what I can afford Very Happy

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    not mint

    Post by ripcord on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:46 pm

    Here is a para smock in decent shape

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:22 pm

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Falklands-pattern-airborne-smock-and-lightweight-trousers-/121061832059?nma=true&si=cCP23wOBySNirr67GomKin6bkJg%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    Thats another reason why I have a battered old smock and not a nice shiny one.

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by fez on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:26 pm

    I must admit, i like field used kit myself Very Happy

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    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:29 pm

    fez wrote:I must admit, i like field used kit myself Very Happy

    Cheers Lee.

    Dont get me wrong,I have a few unissued items and am not knocking people that ONLY buy unissued or mint items but for me used and abused items also have their place in my collection pirat

    Plus,battered,falling to pieces or not its still an early smock which counts for me Smile Smile

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by fez on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:32 pm

    So do i, but its nice to think a bit of kit was actually used in the field and as you said, not just on a shelf.

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    Batter ed up

    Post by ripcord on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:36 pm

    An old "battered up" piece has the character a new shiny one can never have.
    I was fortunate to acquire some decent pieces decades ago.

    enjoy, rip...

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Bury_Dave on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:36 pm

    I understand not being particularly bothered whether mint or not but I was curious with this as it is obvious that it is in a condition WAY beyond acceptable use by a serving squaddie and it's not something remotely rare. It's clear it's been trashed and badly mod'd by a non serving soldier.

    Rare kit you have to take what you can find / afford, but common kit, well, I was just curious. Not being wealthy myself, I find that I need to be very discerning as past experience has shown that the money I wasted on things I only bought coz it was there and cheap, was money squandered. Better to go for quality than quantity surely ?

    To each their own like I said. Very Happy

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:41 pm

    "77 Pattern" Para Smocks are common-news to me : Shocked :

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    Post by mk209 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:47 am

    Another one here for battered used kit. I still have my very first 68 pattern jacket I ever bought waaaay back in '93 I think? (yes it still fits). It's worn and has so many repairs but it's comfortable and it came from a serving Ghurka (has his name and number in it) so it has a little bit of history and I wouldn't part with it for anything. It still gets worn.

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:28 pm

    Gulf ,my opinion for what it's worth!

    I like it ,it clearly has provenance which is worth way more than some item sat on a shelf still in it's poly -bag,and yeah, it's been mucked about with,so what!

    I will always prefer used kit over NOS, as it tells a story or two!

    Saying that it is useful to have NOS stuff, as the labels are legible etc.

    If you had spent an absolute fortune on it ( knowing you, I bet you didn't) then shame on you, but I assume you did'nt,and it was cheap to buy,so good on you.

    There are similar Para smocks,down my local surplus store,with these type of non standard features,in fact I bought one awhile ago.

    I can't get my head around garment fads,one minute if they are "customised,then they must show some signs of being a bit forces on the special side, next minute these type of garments are to be poo-pooed,cos they are non-standard...my advice whack a couple of SF flashes on it..bingo it's a winner Laughing

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:42 pm

    Easy Gee wrote:Gulf ,my opinion for what it's worth!

    I like it ,it clearly has provenance which is worth way more than some item sat on a shelf still in it's poly -bag,and yeah, it's been mucked about with,so what!

    I will always prefer used kit over NOS, as it tells a story or two!

    Saying that it is useful to have NOS stuff, as the labels are legible etc.

    If you had spent an absolute fortune on it ( knowing you, I bet you didn't) then shame on you, but I assume you did'nt,and it was cheap to buy,so good on you.

    There are similar Para smocks,down my local surplus store,with these type of non standard features,in fact I bought one awhile ago.

    I can't get my head around garment fads,one minute if they are "customised,then they must show some signs of being a bit forces on the special side, next minute these type of garments are to be poo-pooed,cos they are non-standard...my advice whack a couple of SF flashes on it..bingo it's a winner Laughing

    Cheers Gary Very Happy

    Nope,the smock didnt cost a fortune hence why I bought it as no matter how buggered up its still a "77 Pattern" smock.I own a few NOS/UNISSUED bits and maybe if I had the financial means to do so would concentrate on a collection of said items but cannot so have to settle for what I can buy when I can afford it(2nd round of hour cuts at work certainly isnt helping Sad Sad ).

    Regarding the(poorly done apparently) zip replacement and the extended sleeve/cuffs I have no idea if these were done when the smock was still in service or afterwards-maybe during the late 70s/early 80s clothing in issue was worn to destruction with QMs being not that keen to replace kit etc who knows but I guess if it served say in the Falklands and got damaged it would be a case of make do and mend?????

    Either way I like it Cool Cool Cool Cool and shame I cannot do any more research regarding its use-only think I can find is that 8BTY could possibly be 8 Battery Royal Artillery which is part of or attached to(not sure)29 Commando.

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Easy Gee on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:17 am

    29 Commando, are based in my home town,of course they are wearing MTP now,which looks completely out of place in a City centre shopping precinct Laughing

    8 Commando Bty are part of 29,it's a possibility this one was worn by a Gunner!

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by fez on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:08 pm

    I was at condor for a while,29 were the only ones allowed to wear para smocks there.

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:53 pm

    So could well be from 29 Commando then Cool

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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by nkomo on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:11 pm

    Gulf91 wrote:
    fez wrote:I must admit, i like field used kit myself Very Happy

    Cheers Lee.

    Dont get me wrong,I have a few unissued items and am not knocking people that ONLY buy unissued or mint items but for me used and abused items also have their place in my collection pirat

    Plus,battered,falling to pieces or not its still an early smock which counts for me Smile Smile

    That is my collecting philosophy too. Personal taste, I much prefer used/abused items as I think they display better on a mannequin.


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    Re: Battered "77 Pattern" DPM Para Smock.

    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:20 pm

    Have a 59 Pattern Denison that is in worse condition than the Para Smock Sad

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