NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

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    NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Bolty717 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:02 am

    Used by the Army prior to the US ALICE. Made by Hallmark industries in Hamilton. Innovative design due to the modular break down from main pack to patrol and perhaps lite belt order, but fraught with issues. From the old digs Ive talked to the centre release 25mm buckles were prone to releasing on the shoulder straps and the sleep mat location as the main back cause a lot of prickly heat in the tropics such as Malaysia and Singapore.

    Basic layout: Lower sleeping bag zip closed storage, main body with top entry and large snow collar, sleep mat storage with forms part of the harness (brown area) internal zip away divider between SB and main body. Removable shoulder straps to mount on radio pack. Removable pouches and waist belt.  Internal radio harness with outlets in main lid.         

    Pack without small radio/patrol pack mounted.







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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Bolty717 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:07 am

    Radio Pack/ Patrol Pack









    Mounted on the top of the pack. Fitted a ANPRC-77 with handset and antennae outlets. On the back was a zip entry to more storage and a internal chopper fluro panel that was tucked away. From of pack were loops to mount the large front pouch from the main pack.



    Large Pouch



    Mounted on front of pack or radio pack, also had belt loops that are the same size as the waist belt.

    Side Pouches



    Mounted on each side of pack via snap domes. Small Velcro closed pocket on rear. Could mount on belt as well, but not sure if this was by design or by luck.


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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Bolty717 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:12 am

    Waist Belt



    Removable and I'm assuming to allow pouches to mount? There were also versions with a 50mm Fastex buckle.

    With Pouches





    Entrenching Tool Storage







    Made for the folding wooden handle that was on wide issue in the 80s. Will take the tri folding type as well. These photos are old, I still have a complete and functioning one in my collection. Ill do a few more picture of it stuffed and worn etc. Onward is familiar with these anyone else have any other info on them? There were also numerous versions of it for the civi market, I can think of at least 3 camo variants and 2 different OG material versions.
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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by saltefanden on Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:13 am

    Waaaauuwww!!

    That has to be the coolest set of kit I've seen all year!
    You Sir, just made me a collector of webbing and load carrying equipment!
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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Raptor on Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:07 am

    Nice job Bolty.Interesting to see some things we take for granted nowadays in terms of pack design and how they evolved.
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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by filupe on Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:52 am

    At the time, this was probably one of the best packs in the world. The few Aussies that managed to acquire them (my ex-OC for one) guarded them jealously. I've seen them in woodland and duck hunter camouflage also.
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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Bolty717 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:27 pm

    filupe wrote:At the time, this was probably one of the best packs in the world.  The few Aussies that managed to acquire them (my ex-OC for one) guarded them jealously.  I've seen them in woodland and duck hunter camouflage also.
    I was just out of RF Cadets School when I got my first one. I was on a retrains site on Ex Golden Kiwi in 89 and the TF infantry were still using them. Swapped my Alice for it. Ive been collecting them every since, but have rationalised down to 1 in as good a condition as possible and have a 2nd one that is a bit rough in some areas. The pouches still come up on TradeMe a bit. About a month ago I found a civi one on Ebay, went for $60 plus USD.

    The real tragedy was in 88 when I was doing RFCS they were recalling them and there was pallets of them at the Waiouru RSDS, supposerly to be destroyed.
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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by 2/1kiwi on Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:03 pm

    I had the radio pack that i pilfered of the old man. Had it in Bn for a few years but someone else pilfered it from me lol!.

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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Bolty717 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:02 am

    Sleeping Mat



    Made to fit back area of pack, these came pre folded. 1250mm x 400mm



    Inserted in back area.

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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Bolty717 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:05 am

    Main pack lid radio exit ports.



    Barrel lock mini snow collars.

    Internal radio harness



    Also shows backing plate for main harness.

    Main snow collar





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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Bolty717 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:11 am

    Sleeping bag area.



    Internal divider, still zipped close.



    Internal divider unzipped to open up area.



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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Bolty717 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:18 am

    Radio pack chopper panel.



    Sewn inside the rear zip entry to 2nd storage area.



    Radio pack with main pack straps fitted.

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    Post by Bolty717 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:24 am

    Main pack worn.





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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by KiwiWarrior1994 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:03 pm

    Bolty717 wrote:Radio Pack/ Patrol Pack









    Mounted on the top of the pack. Fitted a ANPRC-77 with handset and antennae outlets. On the back was a zip entry to more storage and a internal chopper fluro panel that was tucked away. From of pack were loops to mount the large front pouch from the main pack.



    Large Pouch



    Mounted on front of pack or radio pack, also had belt loops that are the same size as the waist belt.

    Side Pouches



    Mounted on each side of pack via snap domes. Small Velcro closed pocket on rear. Could mount on belt as well, but not sure if this was by design or by luck.

    I know of only one other fella who owns one of these, were they rarley issued ?
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    Re: NZ Army Onward Pack from the 80's

    Post by Bolty717 on Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:38 am

    Cant 100% confirm but I think the whole Army including the TF used them when they came out. Remember they were out of use by 88 so it was almost 30 years ago that they came and went.

    I remember TF still having them in 88-89.

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