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    German Woodland

    Post by Philip on Sat May 23, 2009 5:38 am




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    Re: German Woodland

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:27 am

    We had a detailed discussion about the SPEKON stuff in the Turkish area. It's all commercial stuff. Absolutely not used by the German Army in any official capacity so far as I've been able to tell. German trials items are very specifically labeled "Truppenversuche" or the abbreviation "TruVsu" followed by the year the trials were performed. Of the dozens and dozens of these items for sale on eBay I've never seen a label that gives any indication of official use.

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    Re: German Woodland

    Post by Philip on Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:37 am

    you're right. Sad sucks...

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:58 am

    SPEKON cranked out a ton of this stuff. It's available pretty much any day of the week on eBay, often by sellers claiming it is a trials pattern. They produced it in several color variants in a mix of Moleskin and Flecktarn cuts. Which is another piece of evidence to show this is commercial... Moleskin designs (like the one in your picture) were discontinued 7 years before the production date. There is no way that the German government would order new camouflage in an already discontinued cut.

    Sorry to have "rained on your parade" Very Happy I once had a set that was in colors similar to a type of Turkish Woodland. I kept the set for years and years in a box away from my collection because I was suspicious it wasn't legitimate. Years later I sold it because I knew it wasn't. The discussion in the Turkish area shows why.

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    Re: German Woodland

    Post by Philip on Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:16 pm

    at least i didn't pay much for it...

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    Re: German Woodland

    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:28 pm

    Heh... that's what I said about my set! Wink

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    Re: German Woodland

    Post by Philip on Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:43 pm

    i've found out that spekon is or was a supplier of the bundeswehr. a german soldier i know told me that he got issued some spekon flecktarn stuff. my flecktarn smock is made by spekon too. please don't ask for a pic, my camera is broken.
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    Re: German Woodland

    Post by CollectinSteve on Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:35 am

    Yes, SPEKON is one of many suppliers to the BW. It's the reason why they produce "fake" items in BW designs... they have the patterns and the workers already trained to use them. I have several pieces of Flecktarn made by SPEKON.

    I'm familiar with about a dozen different companies who have produced uniforms for the BW. Some have been there since the beginning (1954, before the BW officially existed), some have been around for a long time, others seem to have come and gone quickly. Some of the companies aren't German, such as SEYNTEX and RAKA.

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