HomeVisited the cemetery at Clark Field (formerly US Air Force Clark Air Base). I had visited Clark before but never stopped at the cemetery until this trip.
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Clark Cemetery
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That's amazing. Did the Japanese do anything to the headstones I wonder.
Andrew
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swag- Senior Sergeant
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It was interesting walking around and seeing the different style headstones. There are some really interesting ones that told quite a story about the person. CSM Hollis' headstone was the most unique I have ever seen.
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AndrewA74 wrote:That's amazing. Did the Japanese do anything to the headstones I wonder.
Andrew
The cemetery was established in 1950.
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The first couple of pictures says it was established 1908, or am I missing something?swag wrote:AndrewA74 wrote:That's amazing. Did the Japanese do anything to the headstones I wonder.
Andrew
The cemetery was established in 1950.
Andrew
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AndrewA74 wrote:The first couple of pictures says it was established 1908, or am I missing something?
Andrew
From VFW Post 2485:
We at VFW Post 2485 support and maintain the cemetery here at former Clark Air Base in the Philippines. This cemetery is the final resting place for some 2,168 fallen American soldiers including at least 639 Philippine scouts from the pre-WWII era. The Clark Air Base Cemetery was formed between 1947 and 1950 by moving the headstones/markers and remains from at least four other U.S. military cemeteries (Fort
Stotsenberg 1 and 2, Fort McKinley and Sangley Point Naval Cemetery) to the new 20.365 acre, 12,000 plot cemetery located just inside the Main Gate of Clark Air Base. All WWII dead were moved to the American Cemetery, Manila.
The cemetery contains the remains of U.S. Veterans from the USA, USN,
USMC, USCG, USAF, Philippine Scouts (PS) and their dependents. Some, but not all, were veterans of the Spanish/American, Philippine Insurrection, WWI, WWII (died after the war), Korean, Vietnam, and Iraq Wars. The largest category interred is civilian, mostly U.S. and Filipino, all of whom worked for the U.S. Government, and their dependents. In addition, nationals from France, Spain, Canada, Japan, China, Vietnam and India are buried there.
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AndrewA74- MODERATOR
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Yes, but according to the monument, it clearly states 1908 right???swag wrote:AndrewA74 wrote:The first couple of pictures says it was established 1908, or am I missing something?
Andrew
We at VFW Post 2485 support
and maintain the cemetery here at former Clark Air Base in the Philippines.
This cemetery is the final resting place for some 2,168 fallen American
soldiers including at least 639 Philippine scouts from the pre-WWII
era. The Clark Air Base Cemetery
was formed between 1947 and 1950 by moving the headstones/markers
and remains from at least four other U.S. military cemeteries (Fort
Stotsenberg 1 and 2, Fort McKinley and Sangley Point Naval Cemetery)
to the new 20.365 acre, 12,000 plot cemetery located just inside the
Main Gate of Clark Air Base. All WWII dead were moved to the
American Cemetery, Manila.
The
cemetery contains the remains of U.S. Veterans from the USA, USN,
USMC, USCG, USAF, Philippine Scouts (PS) and their dependents. Some, but not all, were veterans of the Spanish/American, Philippine
Insurrection, WWI, WWII (died after the war), Korean, Vietnam,
and Iraq Wars.
The largest category interred is civilian, mostly U.S. and
Filipino, all of whom worked for the U.S. Government, and their dependents. In addition, nationals from France,
Spain, Canada, Japan, China, Vietnam and India are buried there.
Andrew
swag- Senior Sergeant
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AndrewA74 wrote:Yes, but according to the monument, it clearly states 1908 right???
Andrew
Argue with the monument AndrewA74, I gave you an answer yet you still wish to "contest" it.
AndrewA74- MODERATOR
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I'm sorry I question things when evidence conflicts, I believe it's called investigating.swag wrote:AndrewA74 wrote:Yes, but according to the monument, it clearly states 1908 right???
Andrew
Argue with the monument AndrewA74, I gave you an answer yet you still wish to "contest" it.
Andrew
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Andrew...I think I understand it...the cemetery in 1950 was created...they moved or combined 4 other cemeteries into the Clark one...therefore the monument with the 1908 was previously on another one of the 4 places and was moved to Clark Cemetery in or after 1947...
Steven
PS..the Japanese probably would not have done stuff to the early pre WW2 stones because most people respect the dead whether friend or foe....
Steven
PS..the Japanese probably would not have done stuff to the early pre WW2 stones because most people respect the dead whether friend or foe....
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too answer the question And I do not have facts , but the Japanese tend to be very superstitious especially so when it comes to the dead , so I don't think they would have gone around intentionally messing with graves or grave markers , However I have no facts to back this up, just surmising , and there are always a few bad apples doing bad things in any Army so who knows .
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beat me to it Bond
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GREAT minds think alike...lol
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swag- Senior Sergeant
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AndrewA74 wrote:I'm sorry I question things when evidence conflicts, I believe it's called investigating.
Andrew
There is nothing wrong with questioning something when contradictory evidence is present. However, investigating also involves something called research. If you had done a little of the latter you could have answered some of your questions, instead you chose to just sit at your computer and expect someone else to provide you with all the answers. That is not investigating or researching.
I didn't know the answer to your question so I actually did some investigating and researching, that is how I found the VFW's webpage with the answers you sought. Since I am satisfied with the history of Clark Cemetery that they present (and feel no further need to investigate or research), why don't you send an email to them with your questions regarding the contradictory plaques/monuments (which I'm sure the answer is simply "the monuments were moved there from...") Once you complete that then you can report back that you have completed your investigation and share your findings. I eagerly await any information you can actually share, rather than read your usual non-informative posts.
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