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    Para Jump Kit Oddity Query

    Fallschirmwomble
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    Name : Paul S
    Age : 59
    Location : London
    Registration date : 2014-05-25
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    Post by Fallschirmwomble Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:20 pm

    Para Jump Kit Oddity Query F0-03112

    I bought these items way back in the early 1980s. They're the ONLY ones I've ever seen. The top one shows the obverse side, the bottom one shows the reverse.

    Made by "Irvin Air Corporation" (pre "Irvin GQ Parachutes"), they're labelled as "Extension Strop CSPEP" (Container Straps Personal Equipment Parachutist). It's dated as issued 14-Nov-1962. They're obviously for the CSPEP Mk1 because that's around the time that (I believe) the CSPEP replaced the Personal Weapons Container (correct name?); the fabric and stitching is identical to that on the CSPEP Mk1, and; the next mark of the CSPEP was already in service by the mid/late 1980s.

    I initially thought they'd extend one of the closing straps - but that didn't seem to work. I then thought they might be early "Accessory Straps" (IE: "Weapon Straps" - but that didn't work, either. Are there any old sweats who know what were these things used for?

    When I was in service, we used the CSPEP Mk 2. When I worked odd days in company stores, I saw only jump kit that I was familiar with - never these. I'm thinking that that were a short-lived item.

    The ONLY thing I can imagine they did was link two parallel straps to each other. In a Irvin GQ advert, I saw a pic of a Paratrooper with a CSPEP Mk1 and there was a strap (I'll call it a "link strap") doing this - but it didn't seem to look like these things. I'll try to find the advert and post it here.

    The advert showed the straps (vertical AND horizontal) being used in parallel; on my wings course, I was taught to cross the straps at least one pair of straps. Crossing the straps meant that they were more secure and, obviously, there was no need for a link strap.

    In the meantime, I invite any theories or ideas! This has been baffling me for well over thirty years...
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    Post by Fallschirmwomble Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:06 pm

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    Okay, so this is the advert I mentioned. The container is small and the soldier is badged as a major so I don't know if he's the real deal or a GQ Parachutes member of staff demoing the kit.

    I've highlighted the strap I thought it MIGHT have been used instead of (it's not the same strap) in the next picture:

    Para Jump Kit Oddity Query Gqpara12

    I'm thinking that my strap might have been a prototype of the highlighted strap. My strap would be too short to be used exactly like that as it'd have to feed back into itself to form a loop - but that would pull the parallel straps much closer together. I've never seen the highlighted strap in the advert, it has the same ladder buckle and pin as the rest of the CSPEP. It was discontinued.

    Oddly, these straps are surely initial issue (circa 1962) - yet the Weapon Sleeves are the later/current type with the loops strips, certainly 1964 or later. The advert pic looks like a mix of kit. Also, the setup is wrong, too, because the loops of the lower Weapon Sleeve have been ignored. (It might be that they were so new at the time of the pic that the demo soldier HADN'T been trained to use them.)

    If anyone can date the advert, I'd also appreciate that, too.

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    If I weren't posting this (and wanting Weapon Sleeves pics to illustrate my point), I'd have never seen the sale for the 1964 Weapon Sleeve. BOUGHT!
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