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M11 trousers.
ripcord- Colonel
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- Post n°1
M11 trousers.
mylle- Lieutenant Colonel
- Name : A.
Location : Austria
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- Post n°2
Re: M11 trousers.
Very nice and super fresh. All the trousers i saw were in SR or MR.
ripcord- Colonel
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Re: M11 trousers.
ripcord- Colonel
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Bert353- Junior Sergeant
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Re: M11 trousers.
It looks like those who Invented the UBACS, or produce them are using commercial sizing???
I noticed that withe the UK desertDP UBACS, as you said, they are much smaller as their size indicate, maybe Asian sizes?
And for the Dutch Interim NFP uniform, I find it odd that they again do their own thing, and don't continue their NATO sizing system?
For example, the US BDU's stated on their labels a size Medium Regular, and then the nato size in something like: 5070-7595, meaning body length from 1.50m-1.70m and chest 0.75m-0.95m. and that was already in the '80s.
Then the M-93 Dutch woodland uniform was all along the NATO sizing, and now they have a mitch-match, like M-R for the uniform, and XXL for the UBACS.
I really find it odd that they don't stay with the NATO sizing for all their clothing????
I noticed that withe the UK desertDP UBACS, as you said, they are much smaller as their size indicate, maybe Asian sizes?
And for the Dutch Interim NFP uniform, I find it odd that they again do their own thing, and don't continue their NATO sizing system?
For example, the US BDU's stated on their labels a size Medium Regular, and then the nato size in something like: 5070-7595, meaning body length from 1.50m-1.70m and chest 0.75m-0.95m. and that was already in the '80s.
Then the M-93 Dutch woodland uniform was all along the NATO sizing, and now they have a mitch-match, like M-R for the uniform, and XXL for the UBACS.
I really find it odd that they don't stay with the NATO sizing for all their clothing????
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CollectinSteve- ADMIN
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- Post n°6
Re: M11 trousers.
Bert353 wrote:It looks like those who Invented the UBACS, or produce them are using commercial sizing???
I noticed that withe the UK desertDP UBACS, as you said, they are much smaller as their size indicate, maybe Asian sizes?
And for the Dutch Interim NFP uniform, I find it odd that they again do their own thing, and don't continue their NATO sizing system?
For example, the US BDU's stated on their labels a size Medium Regular, and then the nato size in something like: 5070-7595, meaning body length from 1.50m-1.70m and chest 0.75m-0.95m. and that was already in the '80s.
Then the M-93 Dutch woodland uniform was all along the NATO sizing, and now they have a mitch-match, like M-R for the uniform, and XXL for the UBACS.
I really find it odd that they don't stay with the NATO sizing for all their clothing????
Many of the UBACS I've seen were purchased outside of the standard procurement system, therefore sizing isn't necessarily nation specific. The shirts are designed to fit a range of sizes so it makes more sense to have generalized sizing labels. I have a box full of various nations' UBACS and next time I stumble upon it I'm going to check if any have specific sizes. I'm curious!
Steve
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ripcord- Colonel
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mylle- Lieutenant Colonel
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CollectinSteve- ADMIN
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Re: M11 trousers.
Are they still using their old badging? I mean, exactly the same badging? I've got a bag full of badging so it would be nice if I could use it on the new uniform.
Although... I just remembered I don't have a jacket, just a UBACS. So maybe I should get a jacket first, eh?
Steve
Although... I just remembered I don't have a jacket, just a UBACS. So maybe I should get a jacket first, eh?
Steve
ripcord- Colonel
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My contact in The Netherlands tells me they are using the older insignia..
mylle- Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: M11 trousers.
yes you can see it on official MoD pictures on twitter too.
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