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    Post by belgium_one Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:11 am

    Hello
    new find ! chest rig in jigsaw camo with label "Saber Fatalis"
    fabrication for military ou airsoft ?

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    more photo's on my new Facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556529758397
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    Post by HEB Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:55 pm

    I think its a copy of the Arktis M170 chest rig.

    https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/d/arktis-chest-rig-einsatzweste-kampfweste-731021370/





    https://www.naturabuy.fr/GILET-Tactique-Haut-Belge-ABL-Saber-fatalis-camouflee-US-Air-soft-soft-air-paintaball-ABL-12--item-11568201.html

    there are also Mil-Tec copies

    https://www.asmc.de/chest-rig-6-pocket-schwarz
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    Post by belgium_one Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:39 am

    Hello
    on the website "World armies" , I found photos with the same model used by belgian soldiers

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/world_armies/albums/72157623210732332/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/world_armies/albums/72157623086173375/

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    Post by matchstick Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:39 am

    From what I've seen of Belgian troops in person, they don't get as much of a hard on about troops using non-issue items for use, in fact they seem to use more non-issue kit made by firms like ARKTIS and the such than they do the stuff the forces issue them. As long as its jigsaw camo or other prescribed colours looks like anything goes.

    Not like the British, and especially the US forces, where it has to be 100% issued (although, depending on what the CoC are like there is a bit of leeway on that on exercise/ops provided its can pass for the issued rubbish or if they're sensible enough to know that everybody would rather use anything but the issue kit and there's no danger of the top corridor coming to visit).
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    Post by CollectinSteve Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:34 am

    matchstick wrote:From what I've seen of Belgian troops in person, they don't get as much of a hard on about troops using non-issue items for use, in fact they seem to use more non-issue kit made by firms like ARKTIS and the such than they do the stuff the forces issue them. As long as its jigsaw camo or other prescribed colours looks like anything goes.

    Not like the British, and especially the US forces, where it has to be 100% issued (although, depending on what the CoC are like there is a bit of leeway on that on exercise/ops provided its can pass for the issued rubbish or if they're sensible enough to know that everybody would rather use anything but the issue kit and there's no danger of the top corridor coming to visit).

    I know that in 1997 when the new uniforms and equipment were released the Army came down hard on anybody using non-standard kit. It was probably necessary to stop all of the OD, old Jigsaw, and Brushstroke stuff continuing to be used and making their Army look like some sort of militia. Sounds like they softened up since then.

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    Post by matchstick Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:46 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:
    matchstick wrote:From what I've seen of Belgian troops in person, they don't get as much of a hard on about troops using non-issue items for use, in fact they seem to use more non-issue kit made by firms like ARKTIS and the such than they do the stuff the forces issue them. As long as its jigsaw camo or other prescribed colours looks like anything goes.

    Not like the British, and especially the US forces, where it has to be 100% issued (although, depending on what the CoC are like there is a bit of leeway on that on exercise/ops provided its can pass for the issued rubbish or if they're sensible enough to know that everybody would rather use anything but the issue kit and there's no danger of the top corridor coming to visit).

    I know that in 1997 when the new uniforms and equipment were released the Army came down hard on anybody using non-standard kit. It was probably necessary to stop all of the OD, old Jigsaw, and Brushstroke stuff continuing to be used and making their Army look like some sort of militia. Sounds like they softened up since then.

    Steve

    When I was out on Defender Europe 20 at Antwerp the only bits of kit I saw the Belgian troops using that appeared to be issued was the odd shirt and pair of trousers and a couple of assault vests, and naturally their weapons, but most appeared to be wearing non-issue clothing and equipment in jigsaw camo.

    I much prefer using stuff that isn't issue, or only for issue to special types, than the standard issue stuff as (depending on brand) its much better made amongst other things. Most of our issue kit is only really fit for swanning round barracks.

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