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I just saw this on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250486078842#ht_11396wt_1129
As I'm sure most people know, there is a VERY rare NATIC LABS made item which is worth hundreds and hundreds of Dollars. Just about a year ago I saw one that went for $1245 that was brand new and still had NATIC's inventory tags on it. Which is why people go about making fakes
The above linked to item is an apparent fake. Putting aside inconsistencies with the real item (I can spot a couple possible ones), does anybody see the subtle signs that this is a regular ERDL jacket that was modified to appear to be a SEAL jacket? Here's what I noticed:
1. (the obvious one) originally had chest slash pockets on it that were removed.
2. Tags are conveniently missing.
3. Neck tag is too square compared to the more rectangular original.
4. There is a repair to the upper back, just below the seam of the shoulder section. From what I can see, the stitching for the reinforcement backing for the pull strings is OVER the repair. Which, of course, is impossible unless the "original feature" was installed after battle damage and repair.
5. Hard to tell for sure, but it looks like the stitching on the SEAL specific stuff is "newer" looking than the original stitching. Lack of fading, more crisp, etc.
6. The magazine pouch pull straps look brand new.
I'm certainly no expect on this particular item, so for all I know someone is going to come here and state that such and such an author verified that NATIC modified used jackets
But my guess is that won't happen. So I think this is an interesting example for us to pick apart in order to learn from.
What other issues do people see? Are there other signs of forgery, other than mistakes made on the features themselves? What are the mistakes made on the features? (I can see at least one - belt loops too wide).
Steve
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250486078842#ht_11396wt_1129
As I'm sure most people know, there is a VERY rare NATIC LABS made item which is worth hundreds and hundreds of Dollars. Just about a year ago I saw one that went for $1245 that was brand new and still had NATIC's inventory tags on it. Which is why people go about making fakes
The above linked to item is an apparent fake. Putting aside inconsistencies with the real item (I can spot a couple possible ones), does anybody see the subtle signs that this is a regular ERDL jacket that was modified to appear to be a SEAL jacket? Here's what I noticed:
1. (the obvious one) originally had chest slash pockets on it that were removed.
2. Tags are conveniently missing.
3. Neck tag is too square compared to the more rectangular original.
4. There is a repair to the upper back, just below the seam of the shoulder section. From what I can see, the stitching for the reinforcement backing for the pull strings is OVER the repair. Which, of course, is impossible unless the "original feature" was installed after battle damage and repair.
5. Hard to tell for sure, but it looks like the stitching on the SEAL specific stuff is "newer" looking than the original stitching. Lack of fading, more crisp, etc.
6. The magazine pouch pull straps look brand new.
I'm certainly no expect on this particular item, so for all I know someone is going to come here and state that such and such an author verified that NATIC modified used jackets
But my guess is that won't happen. So I think this is an interesting example for us to pick apart in order to learn from.What other issues do people see? Are there other signs of forgery, other than mistakes made on the features themselves? What are the mistakes made on the features? (I can see at least one - belt loops too wide).
Steve
