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    Post by parafal Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:36 am

    My 2 sets of Night Desert Camo

    1st pattern coat on the Left , 2nd Pattern coat on the Right

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    Post by CollectinSteve Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:01 pm

    Both sets have DoD contract numbers in them? It would be interesting to know what the production dates are. There's so much commercial stuff out there.

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    Post by panzerwerk Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:16 pm

    I could be wrong Steve , but I do not believe there are any commercial oversuits such as these , there was so much surplus .
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    Post by Philip Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:27 pm

    Never seen any commercial oversuits either.


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    Post by Gemini Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:06 pm

    Hey I have these!I just thought one was really faded.
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    Post by Martin Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:09 pm

    parafal wrote:My 2 sets of Night Desert Camo

    1st pattern coat on the Left , 2nd Pattern coat on the Right

    1st pattern trousers on the Left , 2nd pattern trousers on the Right


    Any differences between the 2 apart from the colour?
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    Post by parafal Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:27 pm

    Martin wrote:
    parafal wrote:My 2 sets of Night Desert Camo

    1st pattern coat on the Left , 2nd Pattern coat on the Right

    1st pattern trousers on the Left , 2nd pattern trousers on the Right


    Any differences between the 2 apart from the colour?

    Yes , the 1st pattern has narrower lines than the 2nd pattern , this makes the squares in the pattern look bigger on the 1st pattern and it also makes it appear as if the 2nd patterns where much darker than the 1st pattern.
    Here is a photo to show the difference in patterns , 1st pattern is on the bottom and the 2nd pattern is on the top.

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    Post by CollectinSteve Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:51 pm

    panzerwerk wrote:I could be wrong Steve , but I do not believe there are any commercial oversuits such as these , there was so much surplus .

    I'm sure I've seen ones without contract numbers on them. My guess is they were pushed out into the market because of the Gulf War publicity, but before they were surplussed. But I'm now going back nearly 15+ years in memories... that's a long time Wink I haven't checked any out in probably 10 years as I have two sets already.

    parafal, can you either take pictures of the labels or type in the contract numbers? I'm curious about dates and such.

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    Post by parafal Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:54 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:
    parafal, can you either take pictures of the labels or type in the contract numbers? I'm curious about dates and such.

    Thanks,

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    I will take pics of the labels later on tonight and post them up.
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    Post by parafal Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:19 pm

    Here are the photos of the labels

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    Post by CollectinSteve Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:05 pm

    Cool! So it looks like the "small square" type is early 1980s, the "large square" type is from the late 1980s. Very interesting! I wonder what I have in my hands now Wink I've got a standard set and I've got a tailored set.

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    Post by Martin Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:25 am

    parafal wrote:
    Martin wrote:
    parafal wrote:My 2 sets of Night Desert Camo

    1st pattern coat on the Left , 2nd Pattern coat on the Right

    1st pattern trousers on the Left , 2nd pattern trousers on the Right


    Any differences between the 2 apart from the colour?

    Yes , the 1st pattern has narrower lines than the 2nd pattern , this makes the squares in the pattern look bigger on the 1st pattern and it also makes it appear as if the 2nd patterns where much darker than the 1st pattern.
    Here is a photo to show the difference in patterns , 1st pattern is on the bottom and the 2nd pattern is on the top.


    Cool, thanks - interesting, wonder if it was changed on purpose or just a change in production runs...?
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    Post by Philip Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:05 am

    Similar thing with 6 color desert camo. The "stones" are smaller in early items.


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    Post by Tyler Flint Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:05 pm

    Does this stuff work when your not in the desert? Wink Question
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    Post by Philip Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:46 pm

    Does it work at all? Laughing


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    Post by Tyler Flint Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:48 pm

    Hahahhaha Razz
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    Post by Gulf91 Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:42 am

    Finally got my hands on one of these for a decent price. Parka dated 1981,Liner dated 1984.

    Mistakenly took it for granted that they would be massively oversized like the Fishtail parkas-they arent Sad
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    Post by Twodogs Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:19 am

    Heres another one ,

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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:11 am

    I just cracked out my unissued set and found that both top and bottom are dated 1984, but the parka is of the "small square" style grid and the trousers are the "large square" grid style. Which means the two patterns were produced concurrently, to some extent. And judging by all the early 1980s pieces I see here and on eBay... my guess is the DoD had a LOT of these made in a short period of time and then lived off the stocks for quite a while.

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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:39 am

    Just saw a parka made in 1983 by Selma in the "large square" pattern. My 1984 "small square" example is also by Selma. For what it's worth, I've seen a lot of 1984 Selma parkas and "Glenn Berry MFRS" (aka "G B MFRS") trousers.

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    Post by Gulf91 Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:42 am

    My Parka is 1981 by LANCER and the liner is 1984 by SELMA.
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    Post by Easy Gee Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:46 am

    Here's a couple sets from my collection, no liners I'm afraid.




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    Post by CollectinSteve Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:50 am

    Cool info. 1981 is the earliest date so far? Selma apparently got a pretty big chunk of the parka contract.

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    Post by Gulf91 Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:48 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:Cool info. 1981 is the earliest date so far? Selma apparently got a pretty big chunk of the parka contract.

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    Nice to know Steve-Thanks.

    Didnt buy for the date and to be honest wanst actively after one but the opportunity arose so thought why the hell not Laughing
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    Post by bravo_2_zero Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:55 am

    Just like to add a little something.

    The camo print found on these garments is the old choc chip camo minus all the tan,sand and brown and leaving just the black and white "chips".

    I was bored one day and lined lined them up and the green blobs overly exactly where the black and white chips go.

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