Smock combat windproof MTP (PCS CU)

Cheers Mates. Today latest british PCS Smock to view:

general view


left sleeve pocket with a panel which covers velcro (right sleeve pocket is the same)


pocket after removing the panel


Opened pocket. There can be seen the straps designed to fasten various little stuff.


Left chest pocket. There can be seen a small pocket for a lighter or compas, based on similar designs from smocks produced by Arktis and customized by soldiers. There is a slot for fastening the compas string.


Zoomed tab which covers the button. There's no problem with opening and closing the pocket. Every concerns vanish after first try. Very efficient design inspired by the barracks-made tabs improvised by soldiers out of sniper's tape.


Opened pocket. It can be seen how big is the space covered by the button tab. Notice the inner straps.


The lower pocket also has a tab protecting the button. But that's not all.


Underneath the lower pocket there's another one (accessible from the outer side of the main pocket). The secret pocket is made of fleece. Ideal for warming frozen hands on cold days.


Double faced armpit zips.


The Tag.


Inside of the vertical pockets. There's a mesh on the inside.


The inside of the smock. The upper part has a mesh layer. The 'secret' fleece pockets easely seen. The rest without changes


The small tag on the inner side of the smoch, sewn to the hem on the left

very nice indeed sir! where'd you get it

i sure do hope its not for airsoft....

Hello Bro.

I buy it from eBay.co.uk for a nice price.

I'm collector, commander and member of reenacting group (42RMC L-Coy)and sometimes I play in MilSim games, but to the MilsSim I used different stuff
I'm not classic airsoft madness shooter

thanks for the info mate! that nice price- one i hope to repeat

btw, sure do hope when youre wearing this set you'll be a chef or a musician in your reenacting...

Very nice but still surprises me how there is so much of this already on the surplus market and also of course the legality of buying/selling it.

Gulf91 wrote:Very nice but still surprises me how there is so much of this already on the surplus market and also of course the legality of buying/selling it.

We don't know much about any of it.

What if it's a "factory second" (not passed the gov't inspector, but fully functional)?
What if it's a "production overrun" (made on third shift, for sale to the public by the manufacturer)?

John Brown wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:Very nice but still surprises me how there is so much of this already on the surplus market and also of course the legality of buying/selling it.

We don't know much about any of it.

What if it's a "factory second" (not passed the gov't inspector, but fully functional)?
What if it's a "production overrun" (made on third shift, for sale to the public by the manufacturer)?

MTP at the moment is a very very grey area of which nobody can give a 100% answer im afraid.

Super-cool Duncan..it's going to be a loooong time before these are a common feature on the surplus market..so congrats on getting this one

Gulf91 wrote:Very nice but still surprises me how there is so much of this already on the surplus market and also of course the legality of buying/selling it.

Very good point Rich, fortunetly I have the reciepts for all of my MTP collection pieces...but I'm still not 100% sure where I stand legally

Re the legality of MTP I heard that a local lad was arrested by the civilan Police a couple of weeks back for wearing an MTP smock at this time that is all I know

I see "registered design" is spelled wrong on the label... I do despair sometimes...

Konrad96 wrote:I see "registered design" is spelled wrong on the label... I do despair sometimes...

I noticed that too.

I'm also wondering what 'camoutlage' is!

Regards,
Andy

Can't be legit then if the police ask

Have you found where the MT is on your smock?

MTP is illegal to sell as the MoD payed Crye Precision alot of money for the licence to use their pattern with a UK twist.But like everything to do with the Military nothing is ever "sold" or "robbed".It is "relocated" or "acquired".
And never from your mates.
So i've heard.

'Acquired by stealth' is the term that I'm familiar with ... or 'requisitioned for emergency purposes ..'

Given the above attitude towards MTP .. I found it strange at the time that Desert DPM uniforms incl. Osprey vests and webbing were freely available on EBay UK even while they were still being issued and utilised by Brit forces in Afghanistan.

MTP is gonna be like CADPAT is for Canada.......... Endless threads.... laws, controversy, and much much much more headaches, but a great thing to collect

Does anybody have a 110% answer as to if MTP and for that matter MK7 helmets are legal to be sold,own,buy etc as on various other forums there are very heated debates with 99.9% saying illegal and the Militry Police have a unit scouring the internet monitoring sales and that both sellers and buyers will be prosecuted as NO items should be available to the general public.

Gulf91 wrote:Does anybody have a 110% answer as to if MTP and for that matter MK7 helmets are legal to be sold,own,buy etc as on various other forums there are very heated debates with 99.9% saying illegal and the Militry Police have a unit scouring the internet monitoring sales and that both sellers and buyers will be prosecuted as NO items should be available to the general public.

Very salient point Rich, it would be very useful to know where us collectors stand legally ,in terms of ownership of this kit. I know of only one surplus store in my city that sells MTP openly,perhaps the seller is breaking the law,and so am I hypothetically if I purchase any thing from this store, not that I have of course

Easy Gee wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:Does anybody have a 110% answer as to if MTP and for that matter MK7 helmets are legal to be sold,own,buy etc as on various other forums there are very heated debates with 99.9% saying illegal and the Militry Police have a unit scouring the internet monitoring sales and that both sellers and buyers will be prosecuted as NO items should be available to the general public.

Very salient point Rich, it would be very useful to know where us collectors stand legally ,in terms of ownership of this kit. I know of only one surplus store in my city that sells MTP openly,perhaps the seller is breaking the law,and so am I hypothetically if I purchase any thing from this store, not that I have of course

Yep Gary,i am sick to the back teeth of hearsay,rumors,speculation etc and would like to know the truth regarding these as ok,if they do turn out to be illegal and people get prosecuted or even arrested how do you stand regarding your defence-Sorry Officer i bought it from XXXX Army Surplus or from Ebay??????