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    Post by kammo-man Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:21 pm

    and sausage skin.

    all the above are names used by original wearers ..........not the ebay term by nadyu .

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    Post by ripcord Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:58 pm

    Hey Kammo-Man,

    Thanks again for the great post.

    I have no idea what the proper name for those babies are; I just know they are really awesome.

    If anyone out there knows, please let us know.

    Guess JLM can call them whatever he wants to, because he basically does.

    I think they were a mixture of British WWII windproofs, with a bit of early French lizard thrown in.

    Just beautiful,

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    Post by ripcord Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:01 pm

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    Post by sh4pak Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:11 pm

    Rokkin'!
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    Post by kammo-man Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:55 pm

    all they did was take a small section of windproof and copy it .....

    simple .

    nice windproofs posted .......and with a US zipper .

    Heavy weight smock by the looks of things .


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    Post by ripcord Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:03 am

    Thank you

    They are among my top favorites,

    I`m not certain about the US zipper.

    I received the set as is directly from a friend in Spain in the early `80s.

    Not ruling out that it could indeed have a US zipper. It could have been altered before I received it.

    I will take a fresh look at the zipper, and try to photograph it.

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    Post by ripcord Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:19 am

    I examined the zipper today with a magnifying lens. CONMAR is stamped vertically once on the runner, and twice on the square metal bottom piece.

    Once per side. Although it resembles the M65 zipper in style,it is a much heavier duty zipper. I do not think it is US made.

    The construction and the sowing as related to zipper placement is either original to the uniform, or has been extensively and professionally tailored.

    The uniform is in unissued conditions.

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    Post by kammo-man Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:21 pm

    Conmar is a US made zip .

    M-65 ............

    or sleeping bag .

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    Post by ripcord Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:00 pm

    Thanks for the info.

    I have about 5 M65s of various vintages. Most zippers are YKK. I have not seen any CONMAR yet. Will look at others.
    As I said before, the zipper on the windproof is much more heavy duty than normal M65 zippers.
    Also shorter. It is not a sleeping bag zipper either,unless it was modified. It shows no evidence of modification.

    The pull cord (?) on the zipper is also much wider than any M65 pullcord I have ever seen...

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    Post by kammo-man Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:25 pm

    Its a standard US Conmar .

    I have handled thousands of M-65s and it is what it is .

    If it were British or French it would be way different .

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    Post by ripcord Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:18 pm

    Hello, K M, in one of my previous postings I said that I am not ruling out that it could be a US made zipper.
    Just seems strange to me that an unissued windproof that came to me directly from Europe would have
    a US made zipper. As I said before, it could have been tailored professionally.
    This type of uniform was still in service in the early 70s,and it could have been modified then.
    What puzzles me is that it is in new conditions. Why go through extensive mods and never use it?
    To the best of my knowledge most of the windproofs I have seen are of the anorak type, with no front zipper.
    Thanks ripcord.

    Although a bit off topic, I have a Tiger flight suit that puzzles me as well.
    I respect your knowledge of these patterns, and wonder if you would not mind taking a look at a photo, or two.

    Thanks again, ripcord
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    Post by kammo-man Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:20 pm

    Rip ,
    I have owned over the years at least 15 windproof smocks.
    5 of them were modified with a zip.
    Of that 5 4 were British zips and one was French.
    Maybe you smock was modified by a Canadian as US zips are easy to find there .

    Tiger flight suits use Japanese made YKK brand typically .

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    Post by ripcord Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:37 pm

    Hey O,

    I guess it will remain a mystery. The source of the uniform is long gone, unfortunately .

    Bless him, he provided my best Spanish uniforms and more than a few others...

    The Canadian angle could work,if the uniform was in used conditions. I dont want to sound like a broken record, but this thing has never been worn.

    I have owned it since the early 80s when I took it out of a box that came from Spain. It is in the same conditions today, as it was on the day

    I received it. If the zipper is indeed an M65 zipper, the windproof must have been modified in Europe somewhere, probably in the 60s or 70s.

    or this thing has made more than one trip across the big pond.....

    I am content to enjoy it....Thanks again, rip...
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    Post by vintageproductions Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:28 am

    Conmar is a US made zipper company that went out of business a long time ago and is now owned by Ideal zipper company. They made Zippers from the 1930's up until they closed, which I think was the 70's.


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    Post by ripcord Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:57 pm

    Thanks for that info.

    I guess that opens up all kinds of possibilities.

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    Post by kammo-man Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:13 pm

    No big mystery though .

    This is a mid 60s ......thru mid 70s zip .


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