Estonian Digital Variants

From pictures I have tentatively determined there are 3 versions of the Digital Desert, with some variations of velcro backing. Here they are:

1st Model (2008?) - pretty much the same cut as the Woodland (Soviet influenced), but in ripstop. Apparently no factory velcro backings for arm pockets.

2nd Model (2009) - smooth cotton/poly fabric, 2 vertical chest zippered pockets, exposed button lower pockets, two vertical zip arm pockets. Velcro backing on arms limited, if any. Sometimes a block of velcro seen above right arm pocket.

3rd Model (2010-today) - same as above but with hidden buttons on lower pockets. Velcro backing factory made on both arm pockets, though at first it appears to have been only on the right arm pocket.

I suspect there might be 3 versions of the Digital Temperate uniform as well. However, for sure I know there is:

1st Model (2007) - pretty much same as 1st Model Digital Desert, but made from cotton cloth. No arm velcro backings on arms.

2nd Model ?? - I have not seen pictures of this, but I guess it exists and is identical to 2nd Model Digital Desert, but with cotton cloth.

3rd Model (2010- today) - same as 3rd Model Digital Desert, but in cotton cloth.

For those of you with examples and pictures... what do you say?

Steve

the 2 types of estonian desert uniforms i have. dont know which model was made first?


is ripstop material
this one is the cotton material

By my naming convention, you have 1st Model and 2nd Model as shown. I've got a 3rd Model, which is this one:



I haven't mentioned anything about the trousers because I don't know what the 2nd Model looks like. Do the leg pockets have exposed buttons like your jacket, or covered like my jacket?

Also, what are the dates in your pieces? My Temperate 1st Model is 2007.

Steve

Oh, and then there is the pattern differences as well. I think 1st and 2nd Models use a smaller version of the pattern than the 3rd Model. At least with the Desert.

Steve

ok ill take some comparison shot of both tops and pants but by memory the risptop on was made 2010 which to me was wierd because the cotton one is much better, and yes steve the patterns are diffrent

That is strange! The cut is the same as the now-abandoned style, not the ones produced in 2009 and since 2010. If they were to switch to ripstop the logical thing is to use the same cut as they are using for the smooth cotton type.

Steve

well i am defintatly confused now as i showed the 2 up agiasnt each other




ripstop made in 2011 by (ou renee)for the shirt and the pants are made by (SRS kompanii OU)
the cotton one is made by (ou imprek) 2006

That is interesting!! I received a set of trousers in ripstop, which I traded. I thought "oh, they have changed the cloth. That makes sense". Then I found a picture showing a single soldier, in 2010, wearing the ripstop with the older 4 pocket design. It was well used and he was the only one out of a few dozen with it. I figured it was some salty NCO who went for a second rotation wearing his old uniform. Something like that. But now... it's pretty obvious this is the latest uniform, and for whatever reason they have reverted the cut abandoned around 2008. I don't think I've ever seen a country do that!

Possible reasons for this:

1. Cost - the zippered/velcro uniforms cost too much
2. Private purchase - maybe this is a private purchase uniform and the manufacturer went with a less expensive design
3. Nostalgia - someone in purchasing missed the old style

Steve

New research shows the following progression of uniforms:

1st Model Amoeba (old uniform cut) = 2004

1st Model Digital (Ripstop, 1st Pattern camo, old uniform cut) = 2005 and maybe 2006
2nd Model Digital (Smooth, exposed buttons, 2nd Pattern camo) = 2006 and maybe 2007
3rd Model Digital (Smooth, hidden buttons, 2nd Pattern camo) = 2007 through at least 2010
4th Model Digital (Ripstop, 2nd Pattern camo) = 2011

These are all confirmed by examples in hand and backed up by pictures from Estonia's MoD website.

Comparison beween 1st and 2nd Digital patterns. Notice the 1st Pattern is not only smaller, but brown dominant. 2nd Pattern switched the colors of the two screens:




The two confusing things I've seen are 1st Model Amoeba and Digital uniforms that have 2010 manufacture dates. Both examples, shown here, are unissued and have velcro baking sewn on the right arm. Neither of these uniforms had this when they were originally issued. I have seen no evidence of either of these being issued. Yet they are otherwise identical to the unquestionable real issue stuff. Big mystery!

Steve

just to make it more confusing this 2006 made shirt has a purple colour instead of brown!

Nice 2nd Model set!! I'm still in need of one in good condition. I've got one that's been field modified in significant ways, which is cool but not what I want for my collection

The colors seem to be the result of the cloth. Cheap, high poly count junk. Which explains why it was quickly abandoned for both temperate and desert uniforms. The temperate uniform also looks a little different.

Steve

I received this oddball temperate set.  It mostly has the features of the 3rd Model but has a few features unique to 2nd Model.  I don't know if this is private purchase (does such a thing exist?) or if it was an experimental version.  Note also that the overall tone is distinctly brown compared to the standard colors.  The set is used but there's no signs the colors are from fading:





Side by side color comparison of the different Temperate cloth in my collection, excluding the 2005 ripstop type (I have trousers, so I can confirm it exists).  The above uniform sample is second from the left.



Steve

Example of 4th Model (Ripstop) Desert:



Steve

I have two Estonian under body armour shirts. I think maybe they are commecial model. Because there is not any tag.

Nice pictures!

Yes, I think these are commercially produced. I have seen this with other militaries as well.

Steve

Hei Steve,it,s 4th model it's my (SP105557)

Oh you have got to be kidding

Is the Scout's badge the correct one for the time period? I have several variations.

Steve

Yes all badge is correct,this uniform and all badge take a 2 trip to my
Sorry my bad english!

FobanX wrote:I have two Estonian under body armour shirts. I think maybe they are commecial model. Because there is not any tag.

This type body armor use Estcoy-13 (2011-2012)

Geardardo wrote:Yes all badge is correct,this uniform and all badge take a 2 trip to my
Sorry my bad english!

Thank you for not spilling coffee on your uniform

Steve

Geardardo, Thank you!

Steve,i don't drink a coffee

FobanX,if you need Ref photo send you email

jacket,pants and headgear...almost new Size 182-112-100
offer something..offer money or estonian patches

PM sent.

This photo shows 3 different types of Estonian desert uniforms; man at forefront is wearing a 1st type, man on the right has a 2nd type and man on the left is wearing what I believe to be a 3rd type..



                                                                             






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