Genuine NWUIII?

alphaproduction wrote:This is a legit AOR2 Uniform.

It is made by API in Alaska. Probably a direct issue to sailor
Tag can felt off but if the ACE (Not ECA or EGA by the way both refer to the Marine Eagle emblem) logol is still visible then it is real

Nice find. You can find a whole set AOR2 for about $350 while the M&N Exchange price are about $180 per uniform.

alphaproduction wrote:NWU Type II was previously known as AOR1.
NWU Type III was previously known as AOR2.

Well, at least according to WIkipedia.

There are no AOR3 as far as i know....

alphaproduction wrote:Actually, they are, I am not gonna argue with you, read this (I cannot post line so you need to covert the () into puncturation)

www(dot)itstactical(dot)com/gearcom/camouflage/nwu-aor-whats-the-deal-with-the-new-navy-uniforms/

AOR1 is the project that lead to NWU II
AOR2 is the project that lead to NWU III

So in short, NWU II uses AOR1 Pattern, While NWU III uses AOR2 Pattern, THERE ARE NO AOR 3...........

Also, officially you cannot buy AOR1 clothing, AS THEY DOES NOT EXIST, they are only Pattern.........
Most sailor coommonly refer AOR1 to NWU II and AOR2 to NWU III

If you buy an Official AOR1 garment in E-bay, you are buying a NWU Type II (Official mean US Navy issue, not commercial)

The deal with CP AOR1 (I mean why they are so expensive) is they are endorsed by most of the Navy Seal Community, rumor has it there are no seal not ever worn a CP AOR1 garment if they ddeployed after 2009 (Note the double negative). CP AOR1 (The AOR1 you referring to) is a Government Authorised Reproduction of pattern AOR1. The Official Name of the Garment is Crye Precision AOR1 Desert Uniform. They were mainly used between 2009-2011 after 2011, the US Navy have phase in their own official version of AOR1 Uniform, which is the Navy Working uniform Type II and Type III. The only reason why CP (or another word Commercial production) AOR1 is so expensive is because their usage, they are solely used for US Navy Seal, but you can be in the CB (official name for seebee) and some Base Posting and you will still get issued with the AOR1 Pattern NWU II. And since CP have already been ahead of the Navy in their AOR1 Clothing line. This is unlikely the Navy Seal will even going back to the NWU II, unless the Department of the Navy made them, just like the Army forces soldier to go back to Issue STANAG Mag by banning the Magpul P-Mag. That explain why the NWU II are relatively cheaper than then CP AOR1, but by no mean cheap

Here are the common e-bay proce for the following garment

US Navy NWU ISet - About US$100
US Navy AOR1/NWU II Set - US$500
US Navy AOR2/NWU III Set - US$400-450
CP AOR1 Field Uniform (same as US Navy AOR1/NWUII Field Uniform) - US$300-350
CP AOR1 Combat Uniform Gen 2 - $1000-1200
CP AOR1 Combat Uniform Gen 3 - $not ever saw people sell the whole set but about 1100 for just shirt and about 800 for just pants.)
CP AOR1 Combat uniform Gen 4 - No Price.

if you ask me, if the Navy Working Uniform, which uses the AOR 1 Pattern, cannot be called AOR1. Then i guess CP AOR1 should drop it's AOR1 designation as well as they also uses AOR1 pattern. And finally, not only US Navy, CP uses AOR 1 Pattern, Eagle, LBT (London Bridge Trading) also authorise to reproduce AOR1 PAttern for their Combat equipment.
AS far as i know,

Self Declare: i own a NWU II (CP Gen 2) and NWU III (Issue) uniform set and the sailor sold me that told me this. At first i was as confused as you are.

alphaproduction wrote:I am not gonna argue with you, read this (I cannot post line so you need to covert the () into puncturation

www(dot)itstactical(dot)com/gearcom/camouflage/nwu-aor-whats-the-deal-with-the-new-navy-uniforms/

AOR1 is the project that lead to NWU II
AOR2 is the project that lead to NWU III

So in short, NWU II uses AOR1 Pattern, While NWU III uses AOR2 Pattern, THERE ARE NO AOR 3...........

Also, you cannot buy AOR1 clothing, AS THEY DOES NOT EXIST, they are only Pattern.........
Most sailor coommonly refer AOR1 to NWU II and AOR2 to NWU III

If you buy an AOR1 clothing in E-bay, you are buying a NWU Type II

Edited: When i say AOR1 clothing does not exist, i mean Clothes not equipment, AOR1 pattern exist in many equipment (Load Bearing Vest, Slick Plate and so on) You can get AOR 1 Item (Which is uber expensive) but when you refer them as Uniform, you are getting a NWU II. I think i made myself clear this time......

Declaration, i own a NWU II and NWU III uniform set and the sailor sold me that told me this. At first i was as confused as you are.

B. NWU TYPE III:
(1) THE NWU TYPE III WILL REPLACE THE EXISTING FOUR-COLORED WOODLAND CAMOUFLAGE
UTILITY UNIFORM (CUU WOODLAND) AS THE STANDARD CAMOUFLAGE UNIFORM WORN IN CONUS AND WHILE
DEPLOYED AS PRESCRIBED BY THE COMBATANT COMMANDER.

(2) ALL PERSONNEL, COMMANDS, AND UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED TO WEAR THE
CUU WOODLAND PER REF E PARA 6802, WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL TRANSITIONED TO THE NEW
NWU TYPE III. UNITS DESIGNATED TO TRANSITION ARE LISTED IN PARAGRAPH 8B. OUTFITTING
SCHEDULE IS DELINEATED IN PARAGRAPH 10.

(3) ALL NON-NSW PERSONNEL CURRENTLY WEARING THE CUU DESERT WILL TRANSITION TO THE
NWU TYPE III AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BUT NO LATER THAN 01 JUNE 2012. NAVY UNITS, (OTHER THAN
THOSE LISTED IN PARAGRAPH 8A), REQUIRING THE WEAR OF A DESERT PATTERN CAMOUFLAGE UNIFORM
FOR TACTICAL OPERATIONS SHALL SUBMIT A REQUEST TO THE NAVY UNIFORM BOARD FOR CNO APPROVAL
VIA THE APPLICABLE TYCOM AND COMPONENT COMMAND FOR VALIDATION OF THE TACTICAL
REQUIREMENT, PER REF E, PARA 1101.1.B.(4). THIS GUIDANCE SUPERSEDES REF A, PARAS 2.A AND
2.B.

alphaproduction wrote:Look down to paragraph 8 and check out 8 a and 8 b and you will know CURRENTLY who are authorise to wear the NWU III.........

P-E wrote:

WILLIAMSBURG Va. (November 7, 2011) -- Navy Cargo Handling Battalion ONE (NCHB1) conducts Navy Working Uniform Type III inspection spearheaded by Cmdr. Joseph Davis, 2nd from the left, commanding officer of NCHB1, in preparation for the upcoming uniform transition from woodland Combat Utility Uniform (CUU) to woodland digital patterns NWU TYPE III that will be commencing effective November 14, 2011 at Naval Weapons Station Yorktown, Cheatham Annex. (U.S. Navy photo by Boatswains’ Mate 3rd Class Nelson Doromal Jr.)

alphaproduction wrote:about what? The Usage of the NWU II/III or the pattern?

Do you even know who is authorise to wear the 3 color desert and 4 color woodland in the navy?

Look down to paragraph 8 and check out 8 a and 8 b and you will know CURRENTLY who are authorise to wear the NWU III.........

Edit: Scratch that, actually do you know we are talking about the same thing, only Tactical Land based Naval personnel are authorised to wear NWU III.
It will always be pricer than the NWU I because there are only so many post serve in land base basis. Hence the price will be higher than NWU I, but since NWU 3 is not as common as NWU II (Currently and in the near future are only authorise to NSW or NSW suppoered personnel) So they will have a higher price tag than NWU III. But then the AOR you mention will have the highest pricetag of all as they are only sold to Special Operation Operator.

But anyway, isn't this thread is all about Genuine NWU III and also i said AOR1 is the same pattern as NWU II and AOR2 is the same pattern as NWU III. Unless you can prove otherwise, i am not really interested on how much it cost on e-bay or who fielded it or what, as i own them all already

B. CENTRALLY-FUNDED INITIAL OUTFITTING AND DAILY WEAR OF THE NWU TYPE
III IS AUTHORIZED ONLY FOR THE FOLLOWING ORGANIZATIONS:
(1) NSW PERSONNEL AND SAILORS ASSIGNED TO NSW UNITS;
(2) NAVAL EXPEDITIONARY COMBAT COMMAND (NECC) FORCES;
(3) NAVAL FACILITIES ENGINEERING COMMANDS (NAVFAC);
(4) NAVAL BEACH GROUP (NBG) COMMANDS;
(5) NAVAL EDUCATION TRAINING CENTERS RESPONSIBLE FOR TRAINING NECC/NBG/NSW CORE
RATES (SPECIFICALLY: CENTER FOR EOD AND DIVING, CENTER FOR SEABEES AND FACILITIES
ENGINEERING, CENTER FOR SEAL/SPECIAL WARFARE COMBAT-CRAFT CREWMAN, AND EXPEDITIONARY
WARFARE TRAINING GROUPS);
(6) NAVY EXPEDITIONARY MEDICAL SUPPORT COMMAND;
(7) OCCUPATIONAL SUPPORT HEALTH UNITS;
( STRATEGIC COMMAND WING ONE/TASK FORCE 124;
(9) FLEET READINESS CENTER WEST;
(10) COMMANDER PATROL AND RECONNAISSANCE WING (CTF-57);
(11) EXPEDITIONARY NAVAL AVIATION UNITS DIRECTLY ISO USMC AND NSW OPERATIONS;
(12) NAVY EXPERIMENTAL DIVING UNIT;
(13) COMMANDER SUBMARINE DEVELOPMENT SQUADRON 5 (SATURATION PROJECTS);
(14) NAVAL RESEARCH LABORATORY SITE DETACHMENT SEA COMPONENT;
(15) NAVAL SUPPORT ACTIVITY THURMONT;
(16) SEABEE/CEC ASSIGNED TO UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS ACTIVITIES TO INCLUDE MCB
KANEOHE, CAMP BUTLER OKINAWA, MCAS IWAKUNI, MCB QUANTICO;
(17) OVERSEAS SHORE COMMANDS THAT CURRENTLY FALL UNDER PARAGRAPH 4.B.(3); AND
(18) USCG PERSONNEL ARE AUTHORIZED TO WEAR NWU TYPE III IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS
NAVADMIN AND NAVY UNIFORM REGULATIONS. HOWEVER, FUNDING FOR INITIAL OUTFITTING AND
SUSTAINMENT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF USCG.