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    Post by Martin Mon May 06, 2013 1:47 pm

    Anyone know if these are Border Guard issue?

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    Post by Necrolust Mon May 06, 2013 3:57 pm

    Yes.Border Police Forces.
    You can tell by the cut of the pants. Old police uniform in the same style ..
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    Post by Martin Mon May 06, 2013 9:45 pm

    Cool, I had a feeling they might have been - Thank you for the help.
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    Post by Martin Tue May 21, 2013 3:48 am

    Updated to Border Police:
    http://www.camouniforms.net/index.php/eastern-europe/bulgaria/splinter-pattern/border-police

    What about these ones, do you have any idea what they are?
    http://www.camouniforms.net/index.php/eastern-europe/bulgaria/splinter-pattern/467-splinter-pattern-pullover-shirt
    http://www.camouniforms.net/index.php/eastern-europe/bulgaria/splinter-pattern/468-2013-05-16-16-18-28
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    Post by Necrolust Thu May 23, 2013 1:15 pm

    Infantry -late '70....Judging by the covers of your pockets.Camo version of regular OD service uniform.
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    Post by CollectinSteve Thu May 23, 2013 6:59 pm

    Neat! I didn't know there was a specific cut for Border Guards. That's not surprising, though, since other countries have slightly different versions for their border guards (Czechoslovak and Polish for example).

    Are they difficult to find?

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    Post by Martin Fri May 24, 2013 12:46 pm

    Necrolust wrote:Infantry -late '70....Judging by the covers of your pockets.Camo version of regular OD service uniform.

    Thanks; updated now. Should they also have the star buttons or was it common for these uniforms to have non-star buttons?

    I have added another two items now -
    2001 Shirt Army?:
    http://camouniforms.net/index.php/eastern-europe/bulgaria/splinter-pattern/471-2001-splinter-pattern-shirt

    Trousers - no date:
    http://camouniforms.net/index.php/eastern-europe/bulgaria/splinter-pattern/472-2013-05-22-16-02-58

    Thanks for your help so far, much appreciated.

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    Post by Necrolust Sat May 25, 2013 3:55 am

    ...Buttons with a star depend on the factory during the communist period. After '80 no buttons with stars.

    I guess that sets you one. Pants and shirt That have set. Usually shirt is 100% cotton and trousers is a mixed fabric there is a difference in color. Jacket / parka is always of the same fabric as the pants.
    Sets which show quite ordinary soldiers, officers have reinforcements on the knees, butt, elbows and double legs.
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    Post by Necrolust Sat May 25, 2013 3:58 am

    Steve:"Are they difficult to find?"
    I'f you want I find...Smile
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    Post by Martin Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:06 pm

    Necrolust wrote:...Buttons with a star depend on the factory during the communist period. After '80 no buttons with stars.

    I guess that sets you one. Pants and shirt That have set. Usually shirt is 100% cotton and trousers is a mixed fabric there is a difference in color. Jacket / parka is always of the same fabric as the pants.
    Sets which show quite ordinary soldiers, officers have reinforcements on the knees, butt, elbows and double legs.
    Officer double legs



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    Thanks - some good information.

    Do you know which years these trousers would be from:
    http://camouniforms.net/index.php/eastern-europe/bulgaria/splinter-pattern/472-2013-05-22-16-02-58
    2000s?

    Also would they both be Army issue?
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    Post by Martin Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:33 pm

    Hi Necrolust and others,

    Do you happen to have any advice on which year/era these trousers would be from?

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    Post by Necrolust Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:51 am

    Infantry..late '90..I suggest.but not sure.
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    Post by koalorka Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:25 pm

    How widespread was the use of these camouflage uniforms during the communist period in the 1970s and 1980s? Was it restricted to air-mobile and reconnaissance units?

    How long were the older splinter coveralls used?

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    Post by Necrolust Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:53 pm

    This is not overall's this is Para's 'VDCh" uniform I never seen allive one.
    Armed Forces use Slinter to late 90's official.But still produce splinter some unit of Border Police,Some Srecial Forces use them for training,Also used in MVR.Later Splinter prodused I've seen is 2006.
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    Post by dynamo.alex Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:31 pm

    that's right 2006 was the latest I have seen, too ... a few hats were produced even as late as 2008, I had 2 bush hats from Sofia made in 2008 ... @Rumen, do you know what backpacks these guys on the picture are using?
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:59 pm

    I missed seeing Raff's picture until now, so thanks for bumping the thread Smile

    I am curious about the hats. I don't think I've seen this type in camouflage before. I have a Communist era brown wool version only.

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    Post by dynamo.alex Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:40 am

    Hi Steve,
    these hats are rather rare, even for Bulgarians to see Smile ... I have personally only seen a few winterhats in camo before. I will keep my eyes open, maybe I can get my hands on a summer camo cap ... I will keep you posted.

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    Post by Necrolust Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:12 am

    Alex ...I have one of this canvas heavy cotton backpack "German WWII style".Large innert pocket,2 pockets with lether straps...
    I had 2 bush hats from Sofia made in 2008 wrote:
    If this ,I think is hunting bone hat's in Splinter camo?

    That show on pic is Pilotka hat In Splinter,MVR Internal Troops have a Berret in splinter ( before time some one sell it")


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    Post by CollectinSteve Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:35 pm

    dynamo.alex wrote:Hi Steve,
    these hats are rather rare, even for Bulgarians to see Smile ... I have personally only seen a few winterhats in camo before. I will keep my eyes open, maybe I can get my hands on a summer camo cap ... I will keep you posted.

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    Thanks for keeping an eye open for one Smile

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    That show on pic is Pilotka hat In Splinter,MVR Internal Troops  have a Berret in splinter ( before time some one sell it")


    Oooo... a beret! I don't think I've seen a picture of one of those.

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    Post by dynamo.alex Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:56 am

    thanks for the info Rumen! The "bush hats" were made by "Интенданско Обслужване София", so could been official military hats, right?

    @Steve, you're welcome. A friend of mine had a camo beret for sale a few months back, however it was in size 55 and I have the habbit of byuing only what also fits me ... I will ask him if he can get more by any chance in larger sizes. Let's see ...

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    Post by Necrolust Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:17 pm

    Yes Alex "Интенданско Обслужване София" this is official Very Happy ...but I never seen.
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    Post by dynamo.alex Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:36 am

    thanks for clarification Rumen, this is good to know. Very Happy
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    Post by koalorka Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:13 pm

    Gents, find me a splinter like that and you can have any uniform from my collection.

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    Post by dynamo.alex Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:40 am

    koalorka wrote:Gents, find me a splinter like that and you can have any uniform from my collection.

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