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    Post by Militaryman on Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:29 pm

    Hi guys,

    I just wanted to gloat a bit with my newly acquired Rhodesian Camo rucksack. It has no labels but probably made as a private piece by Fereday and Son's or North. Have never seen one like this before. Any comments would be appreciated. :-)

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    and here is a pic with my Fire Force vest...Enjoy.

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    Post by nkomo on Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:17 am

    If you don't mind me asking, could you tell me who the maker is on your zipper on your vest? Thanks!


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    Post by Militaryman on Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:03 pm

    Hi there,

    Sure, the vest zipper is "LYSTA" and the back pack is "FERNS". Ever heard of "FERNS" before?

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    Post by filupe on Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:45 am

    I think your rucksack may be South African manufactured, probably post conflict. I've never seen the rip-stop Rhodie camo canvas. I'm led to believe that even the camo vests were late war and only saw limited use. The rucksack layout looks to be the standard South African Pattern 83 rucksack design. Could it have been used by a member of South African SF? Quite possibly so, but that, as with everything else I have outlined thus far, is just conjecture.
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    Post by nkomo on Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:32 am

    Thanks!!!


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    Post by Militaryman on Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:07 pm

    Hi Filupe,

    Thanks very much for your comment. What you say is totally feasible. There is no label or even any signs of a label being removed. The pack did come with some contents, which i believe enables us to place the period as SWA / Angola probably used by a SF operator. The contents are 2 x Holiday Inn match books, and a Box of matches with a 2c on the box, bandages from "Johnson's" with the word "verband" (afrikaans for bandage), some soap in a small container from France, more bandages in a brown paper labeled 12c and then 2 x bank bags from "The Bank of Lisbon and South Africa Limited". To me all this points to Border War period. Whats your take on it?

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    Post by loski on Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:47 pm

    I agree the construction of the bag is verry simular to the SADF P83 ruck sack the frame could be civvie as if it was military the metal parts would not be left in shiny aluminum and the fabric parts of the frame would have been subdued but that having said there is no reason why id did not see service with a member of the SADF during the boarder wars. Just my 2 pennys worth.
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    Post by Militaryman on Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:31 am

    Thanks for you 2 pennys worth Loski.

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    Post by bousquet123 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:45 am

    a Niemoller assault vest was also manufactured in Rhodesian camo, used by some members of 5 Reconnaissance Regiment (I'll check my photos for a next quote)
    Militaryman wrote:Thanks for you 2 pennys worth Loski.

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    Post by Militaryman on Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:16 am

    Thanks bousquet123, i would love to see a pic or 2 of that.

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    Post by koalorka on Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:42 pm

    That FireForce vest is outstanding.  Shocked 
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    Post by Militaryman on Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:00 pm

    Thanks Koalorka, When i bought this vest which was a very long time ago, probably 20 years or so, there was a second one in the same condition. To this day i kick myself for not buying it!
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    Post by bousquet123 on Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:30 pm

    as promised the Niemoller asasult vest in Rhodesian camo; same material as the original (nylon) same fasteners. Used by some members of the 5 recce who probably made some visits in Mugabe's paradise !

    The other article is a camo large bag surely a private purchase; unfortunatly I've no longer these items  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad 
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    Militaryman wrote:Thanks bousquet123, i would love to see a pic or 2 of that.

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    Post by filupe on Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:10 pm

    Very nice items bousquet, thanks for sharing. I also have a bib type assault vest in period Rhodie canvas - I'll try and dig it out sometime ...
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    Post by Militaryman on Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:02 am

    Awesome items bousquet thanks for sharing....i'm sure you wish you still has these items  Very Happy  Very Happy 

    As we are on to different / strange niemoller vests check out my S2000 Niemoller.

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    Post by ettore on Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:50 pm

    Hi!
    Probably the sak is a post rhodesian made, but the vest is rhodesian for sure
    Here's mine with dark greenish/black tag (probably made before red tag w/o words "made in Rhodesia")
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    Post by ettore on Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:04 pm

    Hi  Very Happy 

    Never speak too soon  silent 
    I remembered seeing the texture of the jacket somewhere, but I could not remember where.
    It was on this camo Fereday made jacket used by a Patu's guy of Hillside recce in Ngulumbi area.
    Next to a green one for comparison. It has the zip Lysta in front and Ferns behind.
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    Post by ettore on Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:20 pm

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    Post by ettore on Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:46 pm

    Ferns zip is a known brand, as well Lightining.

    Image from a bush jkt made by Rapier Garments in 1976
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    Post by kammo-man on Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:56 pm

    Thats a cool post war ruck !


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    Post by Militaryman on Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:30 pm

    So my rucksack could be war period and not necessary post war as most believe if you look at Ettore's Fereday vest!!!! Thanks Ettore!
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