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So these are differant from the boots I usually wear.I tried to wear them with a pair of socks and the nails poked me in the feet.So I tried two pairs of socks and my feet were still flooping around inside like a bouce house.I tried three pairs of socks and they still did not fit.So a google serch later I learned you have to wear feetwraps with these.They fit like a dream now.