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    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962.

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    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. Empty Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962.

    Post by Gulf91 Wed May 21, 2014 2:09 pm

    Newest Ebay purchase just arrived and very very happy. Early 58Pattern WaterBottle set and by the looks of things everything seems to have been together a long time(untouched). Twist lock bottle carrier dated 196? made by Remploy,Green Bottle Dated 1962 made by Cascelloid Cat No 0035, BLACK Mug Dated 1962 No Maker stamp Cat No 0579.

    EDIT.

    Just removed the mug and maker stamped inside the mug as Cascaflex.
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    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. Empty Ah...

    Post by Fallschirmwomble Sun May 25, 2014 7:17 am

    Gulf91 wrote:Newest Ebay purchase just arrived and very very happy. Early 58Pattern WaterBottle set...
    Twist lock bottle carrier dated 196? made by Remploy,
    Green Bottle Dated 1962 made by Cascelloid
    BLACK Mug Dated 1962... ...Cascaflex.

    I think I saw this on eBay. I might be confusing it with one I saw where the seller claimed that no Mug was made for the WB at the time (incorrect but I couldn't previously substantiate it 'cause I had no evidence).

    I didn't bother bidding because I didn't want to duplicate my collection - and I thought the Mug was a later issue.

    OUCH!
    1962 dated!

    I knew that the '58 set was introduced without it's own WB. Early prototypes were green rectangular affairs - just imagine the type we know but moulded as rectangular. I've recently learned (website) that it was designed to fit inside a Mess Tin. I'll add a URL if I can find the page.

    I have 2x green WBs, both dated 1964 or '65. Swapped in stores with later black WBs (privately purchased, no offence committed) - I couldn't find any green Mugs (I had a day assisting the storeman).

    1x went straight into my collection, the other went into my kit box in stores. One day I drew out my kit to find a new respirator (S10) and the green cap on my precious WB had been replaced with a new black one for use with the respirator.

    (I still use the WB for bushcraft, another hobby. It's 1965, made by "F&G". It could do with a new seal.)

    The storeman did not understand and was typically somewhat "unsympathetic" - promises of beer in the bar would not convince him to look/retrieve it. I think he thought I was simply being weird. And I could never let on that I collected kit - I'd never be allowed to work in stores ever again...

    The early water "jerrycans" were also green, the one in my collection also dated 1964 or '65. I think (from memory) all these were made by "F&G".

    This led me to the theory that the beetle shaped WB was introduced in 1964. You've just disproved my speculation. This is good 'cause I've learned something that may well tie-in with webbing redevelopment.

    Mine are rare, yours rarer still - and more significant, history-wise (IMO).  king  Subject to outlay, I now regret having not bid, it's always preferable to have physical proof to back up research...

    I'll survive...

    It'd be great if you could UL pictures that show the details.
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    Post by Gulf91 Sun May 25, 2014 7:57 am

    Getting a bit fed up with Photobucket messing up the order of my pics so do apologise they arent in the order I took them.

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0006_zpsf8352bc2

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0007_zps3416252d

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0001_zps17145664

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0003_zps9836b843

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0009_zps8d5376b7

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0002_zpsceb7eb43

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0008_zpsb62d83fa

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0004_zps29e39b3c

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0010_zps9db745d6

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    Post by Gulf91 Sun May 25, 2014 12:49 pm

    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0002_zpse6df2286

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    Early 58 Pattern Waterbottle Set,Case,Bottle and Mug-All dated 1962. DSCF0005_zpse4c18511

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