Dutch army loadout displays (cold war era)

Wtf, I thought I had seen all photobucket's f*ckups, and now this again...

Guess I'll redo the posts missing photos then. Also fixing some typo's, like how the Marine corps loadout with M87 DPM said it was from 1978...

First all the KM loadous, including an old one I hadn't posted.



Dutch Marine Corps 1960's, New Guinea.

M60 HBT uniform (USMC P44 cut)
HBT cap (similar to USMC cap)
BAR belt with suspenders (many argue these are Belgian, but I have some proof that seems to show these belts in very limited use with Dutch marines)
US M42 first aid kit pouch
Dutch canteen cover with US canteen
US style leggings
US 50's type boots

Not shown but present in my collection and also usable for this loadout.
US M36 belt
2 Dutch made M1 carbine magazine pouches.






Dutch Marine Corps uniform as used from 1974 - early 80's

M74 summer uniform (consisting of khaki KM shirt, KL M58 pants, KL trouserbelt)
QPO patch
Corporal rank chevrons
Early type Marine Corps beret
Dutchmade US M36 style green pistolbelt
Dutchmade USMC p41 style suspenders
2 UZI magazine pouches (1 regular type and 1 center seam type)
Dutchmade US M42 style green bandage pouch
Plastic canteen in M52 pouch
US M1910 pick mattock in Dutchmade carrier
Dutchmade USMC p41 style backpack
Black M66 boots






Dutch Marine Corps, 1987 - early 90's

M87 DPM summer uniform
M87 windproof smock
2 Marine 1st class rankslides
M87 DPM cap
Marine Corps beret
Dutchmade US M36 style green pistolbelt
Suspenders (with an added strap on the right shoulder, and an elastic on the other)
Dutchmade US M42 style green bandage pouch with bandage
Plastic canteen in early rubberized M52 pouch
Dutchmade US style triple grenade pouch
FN FAL type C bayonet
C3 gasmask in plasticized bag
Folding shovel in carrier
Kidney pouches
Poncho carrier with nylon poncho
2 Packstraps as compression straps
Backpack
Black M66 boots






Dutch Marine Corps, UNTAC 1992 - 1993 in Cambodia:

US Woodland summer uniform with green shoulderloops
UN Netherlands arm patch
Korps Mariniers shoulder patch
2 Sergeant rankslides
Green armlet with Dutch flag and UN round patch
Blue UN cap with late style patch
RBR "305" body armor in DPM camo, this type was just issued for a short while
US LC-2 pistolbelt
LC-2 suspenders
Dutchmade US M42 style green bandage pouch with bandage
Plastic canteen in Marine Corps specific nylon pouch
Plastic canteen in M52 pouch
2 Nylon FN FAL-O triple magazine pouches
Black M66 boots

In the background and in hands:
British green PLCE gasmaskbag (not worn in Cambodia but issue item, they were carried in Iraq a year prior)
Blue UN beret
2 Nylon FN-FAL double magazine pouches
Late type pistolholster






Dutch Marine Corps, Afghanistan, mid-00's

3-Color Desert camo BDU uniform variation
Schuberth 826 kevlar helmet
3-Color Desert helmet cover
Bolle goggles
DPM medic ops-vest reconfigured for use with FN Mag magazines
Late 90's Body armor
ISAF patch
Karabiner hook
Tropical boots

Then my cold war era KL loadouts.


Dutch army ca 1953 - early 60's.

M53 Battledress uniform
Khaki shirt and tie
M53 (M1) helmet with fiber liner and helmetnet
M52 belt
M52 magazine pouches (Different than British p37 in that the front flap isn't pointy but straight)
2 Suspenders (1 Dutch and 1 British p37 reissue)
German WW2 style folding shovel in leather carrier
Metal canteen in pouch
K53 gasmask in bag
Small pack with camo-strings (British p37 reissue)
2 L-straps (British p37 reissue)
British p37 style anklets
Low boots.

In the background:
Leather jerkin
Mesh scarf
Another M53 battledress tunic that is actually part of the loadout, but is too small for the mannequin.
It has patches for Dutch army 4th division, sergeant rank chevrons, and a rampant lion.
Around 1963 shoulder emblems (not visible in the photo) were moved to the collar.
Such battledresses were used alongside the M58 uniforms for quite a while.






Dutch Marechaussee (MP) ca 1953 - early 60's

M53 Battledress uniform with Marechaussee shoulder buttons
2 Marechaussee shoulder emblems
Rampant lion patch
2 Marechaussee 1st class chevrons
2 Marechaussee shoulderstrip patches
1St "armycorps troops" patch
White Aiguillettes cord
Khaki shirt and tie
MP armband
M53 (M1) helmet fiber liner
White British p37 style belt
White British p37 style suspender
White British p37 style brace attachment
White British style holster (Browning Hi-power?)
Pistol lanyard (now replaced with a blue one)
White British p37 style anklets
Low boots






Dutch army ca 1969 - 1976. (since the earliest plastic canteen I have is dated 69, and the K gasmask was supposed to
be replaced in 76, though I'm not sure how long the wearout period was)

M58 summer uniform
M58 winter uniform
Private rankslides
M53 (M1) helmet with soldiermade camo (fiber liner shell)
Early type M52 belt
2 Early type M52 suspenders
2 p37 style basic pouches (1 WW2 British pouch with wrongly repaired closure, 1 possibly Dutch copy of a p37 pouch)
US M43 folding shovel in Dutch carrier
Plastic canteen in pouch
K53 gasmask in pouch
M52 small pack
2 early type M52 L-straps
M66 boots

Not visible/shown but present:
M58 hood
M58 cap
2 early type M52 brace attachments
Padded jacketliner
Long and short underwear






Dutch army UNIFIL, early 80's.

M78 summer uniform
UN Netherlands sleeve patch
UN blue shouldercord
Khaki armlet with UN patch
Trouserbelt
Private rankslides
UN blue beret with badge
M52 belt
2 M52 suspenders (1 late type)
2 KMarns seperated FAL magazine pouches modified onto British p37 brace attachments
Custommade magazine/multipurpose pouch
Canteen in early type rubberized pouch
M66 boots






Dutch army 1980's - early 90's.

M78 winter uniform
Corporal rankslides
M53 (M1) helmet with soldiermade camo (plastic liner shell)
Late type M53 belt
2 Late type M53 suspenders
2 Late type M53 brace attachments
Trifold shovel in carrier
Plastic canteen in late type rubberized pouch
C3 gasmask in early pouch
Pistol holster
Pistol lanyard
Late type rubberized small pack
Late type M52 L-straps
M66 boots

Not visible/shown but present:
M78 summer uniform
M58 cap
M58 winter cap
Padded undersuit
Long and short underwear

Thank you! These are excellent resources.

Two questions:

1. What evidence do you have the BAR belt was used by the Dutch in Indonesia?
2. Do you have any pictures of the KM wearing their webbing in Cambodia?

Then my post-1991 KL loadouts.

Dutch army early UNPROFOR loadout (signal and/or transport corps), early 1990's.

M90 DPM summer uniform
ABA body armor in dark DPM
Blue UN Schuberth 826 kevlar helmet (older model before Dutch M95 standard)
DPM armlet with UN patch
DPM armlet with Netherlands patch
M90 boots (not shown, my actual M90 boots are stuck on a mannequin)






Dutch army ca 1996 - mid-2000's.

M90 DPM summer uniform
M90 DPM bilaminaat parka
M95 type Schuberth 826 kevlar helmet with DPM cover
DPM M93 vest
C7 DPM magazine pouches (2X)
Avon FM12 gasmask in DPM bag
Trifold shovel in DPM pouch
Canteen in DPM pouch
M90 boots






Dutch army, Luchtmobiele Brigade (Air Assault) jungle loadout, late 1990's - mid 2000's.

M90 cut Jungle camo uniform and boonie hat
DPM tactical vest
Tropical boots (that don't fit me), another model than the ones on the Marine Corps loadout in he previous post






Dutch army Afghan War loadout, early-mid 2000's.

M90 cut 3-color desert camo summer uniform and boonie hat
DPM body armor cover (now replaced with a desert camo cover)
DPM chestrig
DPM legholster
40mm Grenade bandoleer
3-Color desert camo camelbak
Tactical riflesling
3-Color desert camo gasmaskbag (now removed)
Desert boots






Dutch army SFIR-5 loadout, Garde Jagers, 11 aaslt (Luchtmobiele Brigade, Air Assault), 2005.

3-Color desert camo parka and trilaminaat pants
Corporal rankslides
Darkgreen beret with Garde Jagers insignia
SFIR armpatch
DPM body armor "modified" cover
Desert camo M93 vest
2 Desert camo UZI magazine pouches
NBC cup canteen with desert camo pouch
Desert camo maintenance kit pouch
Desert boots

In the background some more gear that wasn't worn in the field, but part of the vest complex.

Desert camo gasmask bag
Black trifold shovel in desert camo pouch
Desert camo Rotota cargo bag

The boots are not correct, but my actual Dutch army desert boots are stuck on a mannequin, so I grabbed some available boots that were standing in my depot.






Dutch army snow camo loadout, mid-late 2000's

DPM trilaminaat parka and trousers
Snow-camo oversuit
DPM modular tactical vest with pouch set (early model with camo MOLLE strips)
Wool hat
Wool gloves
Random black boots I had on hand at the time

And lastly a KCT and a KLu loadout.


Dutch Airforce (KLu) ground troops, 1978 - early 80's.

M78 grey-green summer and winter uniforms
M53 (M1) helmet with soldiermade camo (grey plastic liner shell)
Grey M52 belt
2 Grey M52 suspenders
2 Grey UZI magazine pouches
Plastic canteen in grey M52 pouch
C3 gasmask bag
Grey M52 small pack
Grey L-straps (1 M52, 1 British p37)
Black M66 boots
Grey cap
Grey-green cap
Grey mittens






Dutch KCT Afghan War uniform, late 2000's - early 2010's (not exactly sure about the years on this one)

3-Color Desert camo trial pattern jacket
3-Color Desert US ACU pants
NLD cap
Revision Sawfly glasses and pouch
DPM Arktis chestrig
DPM modular body armor
Subdued ISAF patch
3-Color Desert Camelbak
Soldiermade DPM belt
Woodland camo Eagle Industried legholster
40mm bandoleer
Trezeta Top Evo boots

And then for your questions.

1. Not a whole lot, word of mouth from a veteran saying he had seen at least 2 types of BAR belts.
Then I saw a photo of Marines at Curacao apparently wearing such a BAR belt. I'm assuming the other type he meant was the US type.

2. Do you mean the webbing as on the 80's loadout? Because very few parts of that webbing was used in Cambodia. Instead they used a mixture
of US ALICE webbing and either US ALICE or Dutch made pouches. Most likely because nylon works bettre in tropical areas, and doesn't get
destroyed by it.
I do have photos of the US/Dutch mix stuff in use if that's what you mean?

michelwijnand wrote:And then for your questions.

1. Not a whole lot, word of mouth from a veteran saying he had seen at least 2 types of BAR belts.
  Then I saw a photo of Marines at Curacao apparently wearing such a BAR belt. I'm assuming the other type he meant was the US type.

2. Do you mean the webbing as on the 80's loadout? Because very few parts of that webbing was used in Cambodia. Instead they used a mixture
  of US ALICE webbing and either US ALICE or Dutch made pouches. Most likely because nylon works bettre in tropical areas, and doesn't get
  destroyed by it.
  I do have photos of the US/Dutch mix stuff in use if that's what you mean?

Yes, those pics would be great.

michelwijnand wrote:And then for your questions.

1. Not a whole lot, word of mouth from a veteran saying he had seen at least 2 types of BAR belts.
  Then I saw a photo of Marines at Curacao apparently wearing such a BAR belt. I'm assuming the other type he meant was the US type.

2. Do you mean the webbing as on the 80's loadout? Because very few parts of that webbing was used in Cambodia. Instead they used a mixture
  of US ALICE webbing and either US ALICE or Dutch made pouches. Most likely because nylon works bettre in tropical areas, and doesn't get
  destroyed by it.
  I do have photos of the US/Dutch mix stuff in use if that's what you mean?

In fact, any pictures you have of Dutch web gear in action would be awesome (especially during overseas deployment). Pics like that are rarely seen.

Ok sure, here's first 2 photos with BAR belts, the first one is the Curacao photo I mentioned before, and looking at the height of the
buckle the one soldier does seem to have a BAT belt like this.
The other is most likely wearing a US one.






And here's a load of Cambodia pics with a mix of US LC-1/2 and Dutch webbing pieces.
There's also a pic with the blue helmet on the vehicle, it's a British Mk6 helmet with a specialmade cover. Another collector
here has such a cover, it's the same cut as British ones, but completely unmarked.

And here's marines in Iraq with just about the same gear, but also wearing gasmask bags.







I don't know of any other photos of foreign missions before this though. I don't even know of any missions they were sent on during the cold war at all

Outstanding!! Thanks so much. These pictures are difficult to find. The only other mission I can think of would be UNIFIL Lebanon 1982-83.

Nah that was a KL only affair, no KM forces took part in that

michelwijnand wrote:Ok sure, here's first 2 photos with BAR belts, the first one is the Curacao photo I mentioned before, and looking at the height of the buckle the one soldier does seem to have a BAR belt like this.
The other is most likely wearing a US one.

Interesting, I guess that "Belgian" model is the only one that had the high buckle. I think the Portuguese may have had one as well? I'm sure Wolverine should have some input on this.

michelwijnand wrote:Ok sure, here's first 2 photos with BAR belts, the first one is the Curacao photo I mentioned before, and looking at the height of the
buckle the one soldier does seem to have a BAT belt like this.
The other is most likely wearing a US one.






And here's a load of Cambodia pics with a mix of US LC-1/2 and Dutch webbing pieces.
There's also a pic with the blue helmet on the vehicle, it's a British Mk6 helmet with a specialmade cover. Another collector
here has such a cover, it's the same cut as British ones, but completely unmarked.

Any idea what the Flak Vests are? They look similar to US PASGT ones but sure they arent as cammo pattern looks different,higher collars etc?

Yeah I have one of these vests, US made by ABA. I've also seen a collarless version once, though it might have been a very well-done removal.





And yes I think I've seen a BAR belt with a high buckle like this, though I think it was something South American IIRC. The only Portuguese type
I know is a copy of the US one, for use with paratroopers.

I really think these Belgian type ones here could be Dutchmade, although everyone always links them with the Belgian army.
The Belgians had them for sure, but I've seen many with materials that just seem way more Dutch than Belgian to me, both fabric and hardware.

Superb,was hoping it was one of them as am 99.9% sure I have one of these somewhere under tons of crap that has actually stopped rounds.

Gulf91 wrote:Superb,was hoping it was one of them as am 99.9% sure I have one of these somewhere under tons of crap that has actually stopped rounds.

Looking to sell it?

abefroman wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:Superb,was hoping it was one of them as am 99.9% sure I have one of these somewhere under tons of crap that has actually stopped rounds.

Looking to sell it?

Need to find it first,heeehh.

Regarding the BAR belts, a few thoughts:

It is possible that different versions observed by former marines could have been all US-made. The details of their construction changed over more than 30 years, so it is possible that various US examples found their way to the Dutch marines, along with plenty of other US equipment.

The European-made BAR belts that we are considering here, which show up in Belgian photographs, all have integral shoulder braces, as far as I have seen. This is something to watch for in old photos of Dutch marines - so far, I haven't noticed any with the braces.

I have noticed a range of colours and styles for these belts, from khaki shades similar to other Belgian webbing of the 1950s to very dark olive, similar to typical Dutch M52. I have wondered one thing - if these were manufactured in Belgium, for Belgian forces, why add eyelets along the bottom? There was no commonly used Belgian equipment during the time period that used M1910 hooks. On the other hand, the Dutch marines (and army of course) had lots of equipment with M1910 hooks.

Still, one would have thought that if these were made in Dutch factories for Dutch forces, that they should turn up with some frequency in photos. Yet they seem only to turn up clearly in Belgian photos.

Regardless of who they were made for, where were they made? I don't know the answer, but it strange that I have never seen one of these belts with any markings (aside from faked US markings). I think that nearly 80 per cent or more of Belgian webbing that I have handled from the 1950s-60s has maker's marks of some kind. The same for Dutch webbing, although sometimes they are harder to read because of the darker shade of the canvas. So why no markings?

To further add to the Dutch connection, the abscence of markings is pretty normal on KM gear. And also, the whole time the BAR was issued in the KM (as the BAG) falls wthin the time the narrow USMC type suspenders were used, and almost all of the BAR belts seem to have narrow integrated suspenders.
Them not showing up in many photos might also point to marines, as the KL used basic pouches for carrying all sorts of mags already, and old KM photos are not really that easy to come by.
Similarly, I have quite a few photos of marines with BAR's (shooting range, exercise etc.) and pretty much none have an actual BAR belt, just the simple pistolbelt with a bandage pouch.

I'll take a look at mine tomorrow, I think it may have the Dutch type Knip Hier LTD snaps.

I will have to look more closely at mine as well.

Gulf91 wrote:

abefroman wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:Superb,was hoping it was one of them as am 99.9% sure I have one of these somewhere under tons of crap that has actually stopped rounds.

Looking to sell it?

Need to find it first,heeehh.

Found it,dated 1990,at least 2 bullet strikes with 2 of the squashed,impacted slugs still present in the vest.

Gulf91 wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:

abefroman wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:Superb,was hoping it was one of them as am 99.9% sure I have one of these somewhere under tons of crap that has actually stopped rounds.

Looking to sell it?

Need to find it first,heeehh.

Found it,dated 1990,at least 2 bullet strikes with 2 of the squashed,impacted slugs still present in the vest.

Awesome! looking to sell it?

abefroman wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:

abefroman wrote:

Gulf91 wrote:Superb,was hoping it was one of them as am 99.9% sure I have one of these somewhere under tons of crap that has actually stopped rounds.

Looking to sell it?

Need to find it first,heeehh.

Found it,dated 1990,at least 2 bullet strikes with 2 of the squashed,impacted slugs still present in the vest.

Awesome! looking to sell it?

Its no use to me so could probably go I guess.

Added theatre made magazine pouches for FAL (unused) and UZI (used with nice wearmarks) to the UNIFIL set as extras.