European (mostly) unknowns to ID, webbing straps, pouches etc.

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    michelwijnand
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    European (mostly) unknowns to ID, webbing straps, pouches etc.

    Post by michelwijnand on Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:25 pm

    I bought a random gear lot, and there's some stuff I don't know, any ideas on these?
    Not all things in the photos are unknowns, I'll mention which are.

    Rubberized bag top left, string tie at the top, zipper at the bottom.
    Shoulderbag with paint splatters.
    Sling at far right.
    Wide strap with big buckle in the center.
    ST-34 marked strap/sling.
    Sling thing way at the bottom.




    Rubberized bag in the center, I only know it's German since it has a 12 in the NSN. No idea what it's for.
    Green bag at the right, maybe a wash bag? Closes with a velcroed flap.



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    Re: European (mostly) unknowns to ID, webbing straps, pouches etc.

    Post by Wolverine on Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:11 pm

    The bag with the paint splatter is US Army, for M3 SMG magazines. I believe that these were intended originally as part of the equipment carried in armoured vehicles for use by crew members if the need arose. Thus, they were not necessarily carried in the field as ordinary equipment.

    The wide strap with the alligator buckle is of the type commonly used to fasten fuel cans in their holders on US pattern vehicles, but this could also have many other purposes, mostly vehicle related.

    The ST-34 sling belongs with US Army signal corps equipment. There is a vast range of different types of sling and straps with ST prefixes which belong to the signal corps.

    What's the story with the bag that has the Canadian subdued stencil marking? It doesn't look like any Canadian-type bag that I am familiar with.

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    Post by michelwijnand on Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:18 pm

    Great, thanks!
    That's a few down, lots more to go.

    Also, the US pouch has some writing stencilled on the front, can't make out a lot, just the word "clip" in the 3rd line of it.

    The grey bag is a Dutch KLu gasmask bag, someone probably thought it fashionable to add the Canadian logo and RCAF on the side
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    Post by Wolverine on Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:04 pm

    Some versions of the ammunition bags have 'spare clips' stencilled in black paint or ink. Sometimes there is also a drawing number for the item. From what I have been told, those ammunition bags, and the M3 SMGs, were carried in US armoured vehicles up to the 1980s or even possibly the 1990s.

    I thought the bag with the maple leaf might be for a K mask, but wasn't sure. Someone went to a lot of trouble to make that stencil.

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    Post by michelwijnand on Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:42 pm

    Some wasted effort that was Razz

    Too bad the pouch is not a fieldworn item, I don't collect tanker's gear
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    Post by Wolverine on Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:00 pm

    Keep in mind though that those bags may have been used by irregular forces in Vietnam.
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    Post by belgium_one on Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:00 pm

    Hello Smile

    on the 2nd photo , the pistol belt on top is a "ceinturon F1" from french army
    it's a late fabrication

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    Post by michelwijnand on Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:04 pm

    Hi,

    Yeah I know, I have several generations of it already Smile

    Of that photo only the 2 mentioned items are unknown

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