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    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:51 pm

    Hi all,

    I recently bought this Swedish uniform from a shop in Finland. It is unissued and exactly what they said it is... genuine! The Swedish labels have been removed and a commercial size tag added. The Swedish flag and deployment patch have also been removed. Other than that, absolutely perfect condition.

    Does anybody have any deployment badges? I have one but it is used condition and currently on another jacket.

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    The shop's website is here:

    https://www.varusteleka.com/en/

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    Post by Ulvhedin311 on Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:55 am

    I might have some deployment patches left, I´ll check later today!
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:19 pm

    Excellent! I can trade or buy, whatever works best for you. I have some flags on the way to me now, so I think I'm OK there.

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    Post by Ulvhedin311 on Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:01 pm

    I found loads of flags, one of the SWEDEN patches with three crowns that you put under the flag.
    That's the insignia for the international Forces (utlandsstyrkan).

    When it comes to the other arm and mission patches. The 90T was used in Liberia and in Kongo (field hospital staff and SWE SF). In Liberia they used the round and blue UN patch.
    The only mission patch that I have left, except for my own, is the old KFOR shield.

    I also have a rank insignia, PFC with at least 3yrs of service.

    All of the patches are mint!

    PM me your email and I'll send pics!

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    Post by ripcord on Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:07 pm

    Recently got one of the surplus  M90s that have flooded the market..
    Was told it is called an M90L, as in lightweight , but it is definitely not  a lightweight ..
    Just not as heavy as M90Fs .  

    Expected a ripstop type uniform, but it is definitely not.  Still a very desirable set, even with commercial tags and the lack of national flag and deployment patch.

    Have taken the liberty to partially  patch it ; a naked uniform is just not as attractive as a patched uniform.


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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:05 am

    Yup, these uniforms are all over the place now. Cheap, too. A reminder that sometimes items in our collection go up in value, sometimes down. I know I'm glad I didn't pay $400 for a DDR Strichtarn uniform or $550 for a Swiss Alpenflage like some guys did!

    Sal,

    This is the M90L and it is "light weight" according to Swedish thinking. The cloth is 65/35 instead of the standard 50/50. I agree that it's not significantly lighter than the standard version. There are no ripstop uniforms in temperate colors.

    Both the 2nd and 3rd Models are available for sale now, but not the ultra small run 1st Model (which is nearly identical to the standard M90). Only significant difference between 2nd and 3rd Models is the 3rd uses velcro instead of buttons.

    BTW, I just noticed that I called this the M90T in the subject line. Doh!

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    Post by fourtycoats on Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:31 pm

    I have a lightweight shirt which really is lightweight. It is made of material which is about half the weight of the current examples, which I have and hence was able to compare. I suspect that the cut is the same as the original lightweight but it proved popular so it may now be used as a garrison type jacket in Sweden?
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:04 pm

    I haven't compared the m90 and m90L side by side, but I believe you when you say the weight is different. When mine arrived I thought they weren't significantly lighter than the regular m90 stuff. I'll have to dig mine out of a box and check it out for myself because now I'm curious!

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    Post by HEB on Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:24 pm

    Hi,

    I just got a set and its likes yours. Labels and insignia removed, but new. I really like the trousers. the side pockes are hugh and the ends of the legs are really nice.

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    Post by HEB on Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:26 pm

    do you know, what for are the straps? How do I use them?

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    Post by fourtycoats on Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:51 pm

    The one on the hem holds a little hook which engages with the boot lacing to stop the pants from rising up when the knee is bent.
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    Post by Haydamaka on Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:26 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:Hi all,

    I recently bought this Swedish uniform from a shop in Finland.  It is unissued and exactly what they said it is... genuine!  The Swedish labels have been removed and a commercial size tag added.  

    Steve


    Hello Steve and all of you, guys!

    I just wanted to ask a question about information tags, that should be on the M90 pants and jackets...

    One of local sellers is proposing M90 pants, which look good, but I don't like the information tag.. It looks too commercial and cheap...

    Here the pants I am talking about, and below I am going to add some other photos (provided by the seller):

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    So the questions are:

    - is the swapping of real army coloured tags with 3 crowns, year and other useful info typical and usual for M90 pants?
    - Who makes this elimination of real tags and knitting-on the worst quality commercial tags on the pieces of uniform intended for civilian market?


    Any ideas about this?

    Thank you in advance for any information!
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    Post by Haydamaka on Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:29 pm

    More pics of those M90 pants
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    Post by Haydamaka on Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:30 pm

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    Post by Haydamaka on Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:37 pm

    Also I have seen the same "commercially-looking" info tag on another set, proposed by local seller:

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    Is this an official policy of the Swedish Armed Forces for their uniform, intended for sale on commercial civilian market?

    Thanks again for your patience and any answers!

    Best regards,
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    Post by ripcord on Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:23 pm

    These trousers and shirts  are legit de milled *Swedish M90L uniforms.

    Have no idea who is doing the de milling and attaching  non military type labels, but the uniforms are great, and in most occasions, in new condition ( with a funny smell, for awhile ).

    Great bargains considering this type of quality.





    * Demilling in this case resulted in the removal of original labels and national flags/ insignia. In some cases, labels are defaced, and/or garments are cut,or torn.
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    Post by mylle on Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:34 pm

    AFAIK the swedes have to pull off the tags by law before they sell them off to the surplus-wholesellers.
    Those uniforms got sold off because they fell through quality controls.
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    Post by Haydamaka on Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:40 pm

    ripcord wrote:These trousers and shirts  are legit de milled Swedish M90L uniforms.
    Have no idea who is doing the de milling and attaching  non military type labels...


    Thank you for your answer and opinion!

    At the moment I think that some shops, e.g. in Finland, have the opportunity to purchase some batches of legit de mille Swedish M90 uniform, but they are not allowed to sell
    these camouflage pieces (controlled by the state in Sweden) with all that real ID tags and patches
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    So they have some specialized staff to remove the original labels, and they order and add-on the cheap commercial labels with the most important info, like size and care instructions.

    This process is similar to repairement before sale, in other words, this is something like pre-sale preparation.
    So there are plenty of M90 uniform sets in the world with such identical info tags.

    Does it make sense?
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    Post by ripcord on Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:55 pm

    You are welcome..

    These uniforms have been on the market for quite a few years.

    We are starting to see used ones hit the market.

    Grab a new one if you can. They wont be around forever in quantity and new conditions.

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    Post by Haydamaka on Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:59 pm

    mylle wrote:AFAIK the swedes have to pull off the tags by law before they sell them off to the surplus-wholesellers.
    Those uniforms got sold off because they fell through quality controls.

    Thank you, Alex, for your clarification.

    Taking into consideration this info, the commercially-looking tags are to be added in Sweden, not in the foreign shops, because only the person, who removed the size tag knows what similar info tag is to be added.

    If the tags and patces are removed in Sweden, foreign sellers receive the M90 pieces with no info tags.

    ... or each piece of uniform is to be accompanied with some paper (document), where all the necessary info is indicated.


    Another important question is quality.
    If such M90 pieces " fell through quality controls", there should be some reason(s) for that, some problems with quality...

    I suppose that both correct colour tags with crowns, and commercially-looking white tags use to be added by the manufacturer itself, by results of quality control tests.
    The purchased by the Swedish state pieces get "good" colour labels, the faulty pieces get commercial labels attached and go to civilian market for cheaper.

    What do you think about this?
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    Post by Haydamaka on Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:10 pm

    ripcord wrote: These uniforms have been on the market for quite a few years. We are starting to see used ones hit the market.

    Grab a new one if you can. They wont be around forever in quantity and new conditions.

    Thanks again!

    The point is that here these pieces are sold at approximately the same price as legit ones, and the sellers swear their stuff is real military one!

    Thay try not to pay attention to such small peculiarities with "commercially-looking" or "officially-looking" labels.Shocked


    The used pieces of M90 uniform with such simple labels on the market, mentioned by you, could be just second-hand products from those civilians who managed to purchase new pieces and have been wearing them for some time ... Very Happy
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    Post by ripcord on Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:19 pm

    As far as the labels are concerned: all labels I've see are identical on all the surplus M90Ls.

    When these things first became available about 5 years ago, they were priced very well .

    My set cost $60.00. Not cheap, but a very good price .

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    Post by Haydamaka on Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:58 pm

    ripcord wrote:As far as the labels are concerned: all labels I've see are identical on all the surplus M90Ls.

    When these things first became available about 5 years ago, they were priced very well .

    My set cost  $60.00.  Not cheap, but a very good price .


    As far as the prices are concerned: the M90F pants cost about 35 US dollars with delivery inside the country, the second set (M90L, I guess) - about 101 US dollars, but the second seller is absent since April 2020...
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