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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:02 pm

    This not mine but I found a pic on s FB site, lovely Goretex Smock and possibly PECOC

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    Also manage to dispell a myth, BlackHawk Hybrid plate carrier...it’s from Poland and Commercial..

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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:25 pm

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    Post by CollectinSteve Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:21 pm

    Nice!!! That's what we have previously identified as Hybrid 2. So far the only two items I've seen in it are the mockup body armor cover and (now, for the first time) rucksack cover.

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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:43 pm

    I got the cover from a fellow collector. He had a few of them and kindly sold me one with the mock up body armour. It’s the first time have seen the covers also. I wonder if they did Bergen covers in any of the other Hybrid pieces???
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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:47 pm

    A few more bits I’ve picked up!

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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:13 pm

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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:38 pm

    Picked these up this week, they are what looks to be Trial trousers, basically made.

    The Green set have a number 2 written in them. The Hybrid doesn’t have a number. Don’t know if a jacket of sorts was made to match...very unique!!

    The greens are amazing!!!

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    Post by mylle Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:44 pm

    I dont get it anymore how many color variations they trialed. But great pieces.
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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:57 pm

    Honestly don’t know Alex, I had a incling from the pic which was circulating of the manaquin torsos that there was a number of colours but didn’t think they made anything With the colours on?! I heard that the PECOC programme was possibly canned due to the volume of test patterns...too many!!! It’s looking that way!!
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:33 am

    These are amazing!! That's the first piece of Hybrid I've seen used for a uniform, but I had always assumed they gave it some amount of effort. Why would you NOT try out a pattern for a uniform that you were planning on making kit out of?

    The totally trippy green DPM is awesome! One of the things that the PECOC trials have shown is what an inventive approach to experimenting can produce. In particular the program's use of ink jet fabric printing. Fast and cheap! Couple that with primitive sewing and no fancy bits (zippers, buttons, etc.) and you can see this is the wave of the future.

    From a materials cost, I'd be surprised if they had more than $50 invested in a single hand made piece (most of it being sewing labor). And in theory it could be made the same day. Feed the pattern into the printer in the morning, sew in the afternoon. Don't like the colors, orientation, scaling, or drawings? Next day you have an entirely different sample going down the fashion runway!

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    Post by LeeKitchen1975 Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:51 am

    Thanks Steve. Interestingly a large box turned up at my door the other day, enclosed was rather s lot of MOD FABRIC SAMPLES, all with MOD seals. Within the box was one PECOC Woodland DPM Goretex Smock, two DDPM Smocks and the corresponding trousers all butchered weirdly, holes cut out, arms cut off etc. but with all this was two PECOC samples, the Hybrid Digital and another...unfortunate no paper work with them so no leads...

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    Post by mylle Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:02 pm

    Wow. Very interesting. What a Face
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:39 pm

    The Mutlicam sorta kinda looking pattern is really nice looking! Pity they didn't put that into full trials as I think it would make for a stunning uniform.

    Are all the cloth swatches in the folders solid color only?

    Just when we thought the PECOC stuff couldn't get more complicated...

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    Post by jeva Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:32 pm

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    Post by CollectinSteve Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:09 pm

    That's a very nice haul of stuff, however it isn't British. They are in typical Middle Eastern cut. I've lost track of who is using 4 color DPM desert these days, but there are several countries that have continued to use this pattern over the years.

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    Post by michelwijnand Sat May 19, 2018 3:47 pm

    Found this backpack today that seems to be in the hybrid pattern. The seller I got it from bought it from a Polish company that claimed it was Polish produced for Dutch trials, but I'm pretty sure that's untrue.
    Sadly no tags anywhere.
    The pocket against the back has a layer of foam inside.

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    Post by Duncan McLain Mon May 21, 2018 8:02 am

    This backpack looks like Polish JanySport commercial backpack PP25 GROT.
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    Post by michelwijnand Mon May 21, 2018 9:53 am

    Thanks, it does look like that model, but with many small differences I see to what seems like several generations of that type.
    Many details are either left out or simplified.
    No logo's, no extra rings and buckles to secure the leftover strapping on the tightening straps, simpler top handle, some webbing tabs here and there left out, no ladder buckles on the top, no sliding buckles higher on the back at the height of the velcro, no load tightening straps inside.
    And the only addition, the velcro.
    Heck I'm starting the story about it being for Dutch trials, going by how the Dutch MoD always tries to skimp on costs, simplifying anything that seems useful, making everything they order as shitty as possible Razz
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    Post by Duncan McLain Mon May 21, 2018 11:20 am

    I spoke with Paweł Janyst, CEO of Janysport - this is unnamed copy of PP25.
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    Post by michelwijnand Mon May 21, 2018 12:17 pm

    Yeah I've mailed him too and got the same answer. I'm now trying to get the shop where I bought it to look at their ecords for where it was from exactly.
    They buy big loads of wholesale surplus, so it's a bit of a longshot though

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