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Desert uniforms (DCU) - DESERT 6 colors "Chocolate chip" dated 1984
HEB- Sergeant
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ripcord- Colonel
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My pleasure,
TennoHeikaNate- Senior Sergeant
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I had the good fortune of stumbling across these two beauties and very nearly lost the bid for them.
I compared the 6 color desert coat to a 1984 and a 1990 dated samples, the 1990 one also being made by DPSC. The most interesting feature of the 1972 coat is the colors being slightly but noticeably different, and while the pattern shapes are about the same size, the pattern repeat on the 1972 example is about 16 3/4", while the pattern on the production examples of chocolate chip is 15".
Photos from the Digital Commonwealth, Natick Laboratories desert uniform testing, dating as early as May 12, 1972:
I compared the 6 color desert coat to a 1984 and a 1990 dated samples, the 1990 one also being made by DPSC. The most interesting feature of the 1972 coat is the colors being slightly but noticeably different, and while the pattern shapes are about the same size, the pattern repeat on the 1972 example is about 16 3/4", while the pattern on the production examples of chocolate chip is 15".
Photos from the Digital Commonwealth, Natick Laboratories desert uniform testing, dating as early as May 12, 1972:
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HEB- Sergeant
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thats really interesting, thank you!
Camonut314- Sergeant Major
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Nice! As an anecdote: I met a guy who was part of the 10th Mountain Division. Anyway, one day in 1979, his unit was roused out of bed and told to gear up and go wait on the tarmac. Before leaving, they handed in their OD uniforms and were handed back "plain tan fatigues". They then waited out on the tarmac for 18 hours. It was only afterwards and they were told to stand down that their CO came through and told them that the Soviet Union had invaded Afghanistan, and that they had been 'this close' to being deployed.
Bert353- Junior Sergeant
- Location : France
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Hello,
I wonder, was there during any moment in time to your knowledge a M-65 jacket in chocolate chip pattern made?
Since they were made in O.D., Woodland, 3color desert and UCP that I know of.
I wonder, was there during any moment in time to your knowledge a M-65 jacket in chocolate chip pattern made?
Since they were made in O.D., Woodland, 3color desert and UCP that I know of.
ripcord- Colonel
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If there were any made, I have not seen any, ever..
During the time Chocolate Chip were issued, night desert parkas were in use along Olive Green M65s. ..
Also, no CC patrol cap, or 8 point USMC caps were ever issued; only boonies.
CC M65s or CC caps found in this pattern are purely commercial/private purchase..
S
During the time Chocolate Chip were issued, night desert parkas were in use along Olive Green M65s. ..
Also, no CC patrol cap, or 8 point USMC caps were ever issued; only boonies.
CC M65s or CC caps found in this pattern are purely commercial/private purchase..
S
Bert353- Junior Sergeant
- Location : France
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Great, thank you.
now I don't need to look further.
now I don't need to look further.
Bert353- Junior Sergeant
- Location : France
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Hmmm, I was searching something in my collection, and guess what?!
I stumbled upon this, to me it seems to be original?
And it is a sturdy quality, that's for sure.
I stumbled upon this, to me it seems to be original?
And it is a sturdy quality, that's for sure.
ripcord- Colonel
- Location : USA
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Commercial .
Here is a sure hint; Label shows made in U.S.A.
No issued US headgear, or uniform I have ever seen has Made in U.S.A. in the label.
Very few soldiers were issued CC uniforms prior to Desert Storm. Only those who participated in US/UN missions to arid regions were issued CC uniforms.
I believe only boonies, helmet covers ,rucksack covers, and of course blouses and trousers were ever issued.
CC uniforms were not used stateside, except for exercises held in desert areas of US, and never intended, or issued as general uniforms; issued on a need basis only.
Having said all that, commercial/ private purchase caps were certainly used and tacitly accepted during DS . When the commanding General wears one, I guess it sends a message that it was OK to wear one.
Gen. Schwartzkopf wore one and many others senior officers did as well, so you can definitely be happy with the cap you have..
P.S. The brass has always frowned on the use of boonies, especially in US territory.
Here is a sure hint; Label shows made in U.S.A.
No issued US headgear, or uniform I have ever seen has Made in U.S.A. in the label.
Very few soldiers were issued CC uniforms prior to Desert Storm. Only those who participated in US/UN missions to arid regions were issued CC uniforms.
I believe only boonies, helmet covers ,rucksack covers, and of course blouses and trousers were ever issued.
CC uniforms were not used stateside, except for exercises held in desert areas of US, and never intended, or issued as general uniforms; issued on a need basis only.
Having said all that, commercial/ private purchase caps were certainly used and tacitly accepted during DS . When the commanding General wears one, I guess it sends a message that it was OK to wear one.
Gen. Schwartzkopf wore one and many others senior officers did as well, so you can definitely be happy with the cap you have..
P.S. The brass has always frowned on the use of boonies, especially in US territory.
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ripcord- Colonel
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