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Just to share a few pieces from my collection and to show the transition through the 1990's onward from OD webbing to the latter flecktarn and the replacement of the stahlhelm to the gefechtshelm 
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thunderchild- Senior Sergeant
- Age : 53
Location : uk
Registration date : 2013-04-21
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CollectinSteve- ADMIN
- Location : New England, US
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Very nice! Some minor things to note:
1. The arm pocket on the left sleeve was introduced in 1993, no exposed velcro pocket stitching in 1994. Which means your Flecktarn stuff is 1994 onward, which would make the use of the OD webbing a little bit of a throwback (probably reserves still had the old kit).
2. arm rank on the Goretex jacket is on the wrong sleeve
Should be high point to rear, low point to front. Also, the camo type were for a long time technically against regs, though it seems units on deployment (and Salamander would be such a unit) did wear them fairly early on.
3. The beret is mismatched with the jacket. The color behind the badge (which is not regulation dress) should match what is on the shoulders. In this case you have red (artillery) on the beret and yellow (recon) on the shoulders.
4. Your beer bottles all appear empty and in a neat row. Only full bottles should be in neat rows, empty ones in piles.
Steve
1. The arm pocket on the left sleeve was introduced in 1993, no exposed velcro pocket stitching in 1994. Which means your Flecktarn stuff is 1994 onward, which would make the use of the OD webbing a little bit of a throwback (probably reserves still had the old kit).
2. arm rank on the Goretex jacket is on the wrong sleeve
Should be high point to rear, low point to front. Also, the camo type were for a long time technically against regs, though it seems units on deployment (and Salamander would be such a unit) did wear them fairly early on.3. The beret is mismatched with the jacket. The color behind the badge (which is not regulation dress) should match what is on the shoulders. In this case you have red (artillery) on the beret and yellow (recon) on the shoulders.
4. Your beer bottles all appear empty and in a neat row. Only full bottles should be in neat rows, empty ones in piles.
Steve
thunderchild- Senior Sergeant
- Age : 53
Location : uk
Registration date : 2013-04-21
Number of posts : 344
Thanks Steve ,the last comment made my day ,thanks also for the pointer's on the discrepancies ,its all still a learning curve for me but always appreciate the knowledge you pass on with my display's
great stuff ,cheers ,James
,thanks also for the pointer's on the discrepancies ,its all still a learning curve for me but always appreciate the knowledge you pass on with my display's great stuff ,cheers ,James
reneblacky- Location : Australia
Registration date : 2024-10-31
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Hey James Mate Is this one an issue cap or a commercial Mil tec? everything is spot on just not sure if the company supplied the BW? 
CollectinSteve- ADMIN
- Location : New England, US
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Anything with STURM on the label is 100% commercial. Sturm is the parent company of Mil-Tec and Teesar. Before that it was "TSR" S standing for... wait for it... Sturm (Thomas Sturm Rottenburg)
This particular item is indistinguishable from genuine issue. Many of Sturm/Mil-Tec/TSR items are like that.
Steve
(Thomas Sturm Rottenburg)This particular item is indistinguishable from genuine issue. Many of Sturm/Mil-Tec/TSR items are like that.
Steve
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reneblacky- Location : Australia
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Cheers Steve, I did like it as it was identical to an original, but it bothered me that the seller claimed it as Military issue! so I sent it back.CollectinSteve wrote:Anything with STURM on the label is 100% commercial. Sturm is the parent company of Mil-Tec and Teesar. Before that it was "TSR" S standing for... wait for it... Sturm
This particular item is indistinguishable from genuine issue. Many of Sturm/Mil-Tec/TSR items are like that.
Steve
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CollectinSteve- ADMIN
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reneblacky wrote:Cheers Steve, I did like it as it was identical to an original, but it bothered me that the seller claimed it as Military issue! so I sent it back.CollectinSteve wrote:Anything with STURM on the label is 100% commercial. Sturm is the parent company of Mil-Tec and Teesar. Before that it was "TSR" S standing for... wait for it... Sturm
This particular item is indistinguishable from genuine issue. Many of Sturm/Mil-Tec/TSR items are like that.
Steve
Yeah, only us uniform geeks are really knowledgeable about the differences between genuine and commercial kit. I see commercial stuff listed as genuine all the time and I think the sellers just don't know. In fact, many years ago I asked someone in the US military to get me the then brand new ACU uniform. He said, "why not just buy it online? It's the same thing". Well, no it isn't
Steve
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