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    Post by Philip Sun May 23, 2010 3:13 pm

    Please help me to identify this camo jacket:

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    Pattern looks Italian to me.

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    Buttons say DEUTSCHES ROTES KREUZ (German red cross):
    Please ID camo jacket Bild116l3ci

    Thanks in advance!
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    Post by panzerwerk Sun May 23, 2010 3:16 pm

    The pattern is Italian , it is made up to be a German WWII jacket , but is it real ?????? I cant say.
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    Post by 1stDivVet Sun May 23, 2010 3:21 pm

    I agree.. WW2 pattern Italian camo made into a jacket. Like Steve said, hard to tell if it's original or not.. I'd take it tho.. Would look good with my "Captured War Booty" display at reenactments.. LOL

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    Post by Philip Sun May 23, 2010 3:24 pm

    Thanks Steve and Mark. All I can say that it is old. I found it on the attic of our old house.


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    Post by panzerwerk Sun May 23, 2010 3:30 pm

    Cool , keep it !!! post it on the Whermacht awards , they will be able to tell you right away.
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    Post by Philip Sun May 23, 2010 3:33 pm

    I have already posted the same topic there! Smile


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    Post by Mercenary25 Sun May 23, 2010 3:40 pm

    Let us know what you found out about this jacket from Wehrmacht Awards. Cheers.


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    Post by 1stDivVet Sun May 23, 2010 3:41 pm

    The only thing odd to me is the buttons.. The Red Cross would normally not have worn camo.. BUT.. And here's the big but, most uniforms done in the Italian camo by the German Army were done late war in late 44 and early 45. Hence, many combinations and simplifications of insignia shows up. The possibility of the buttons meant for DRK being used for a general issue uniform would not be unusual. Lack of insignia on the jacket is a good thing as little was really worn on camo clothing besides ocasional rank or eagle.. My initial thoughts are that it's good as it looks old to me.. The hook looks like some on my tunics which is different than post war hooks in shape.. I'd still take it tho!! Twisted Evil

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    Post by panzerwerk Sun May 23, 2010 3:43 pm

    This would have most likely been an SS jacket , you should post it in the SS uniform forum not the International forum , the other thing is many of these buttons survived the war and are still easy to get today , this could have been something cobbled together after the war , but the whole attic thing could mean its been there a long time assuming your house predates the war .
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    Post by Philip Sun May 23, 2010 3:48 pm

    Thanks for your answers. The old house predates WWII many many decades. Personally I don't have a good feeling about it so I don't except too much. Still a cool jacket.


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    Post by CollectinSteve Sun May 23, 2010 4:58 pm

    Hmmm... well, the DRK buttons don't bother me at all. The bulk of this stuff was "custom made" for 1st SS and, IIRC, a few other SS units that had been in Italy (16th SS for example). The SS farmed out the work to cottage industries and/or concentration camp labor. If they found DRK buttons in great supply they would have used them, I have no doubts about that. It could also be that someone replaced a lost button after the war with the DRK button.

    If I'm going to get fussy about the buttons I'd look at the one under the collar. If that's plastic then it's not original since the Germans didn't have plastic buttons. Metal and pressed paper were the most common ones by the end of the ware, but Bakelite is entirely reasonable as welll.

    If this is a fake it is a damned good one. The cloth looks to have been unused when it was made into the jacket. And after it was made was worn quite a bit. The wear pattern seems to indicate this.

    What I'm not familiar with is the general construction of Italian camouflage material jackets. This certainly isn't a standard Wehrmacht or Waffen SS cut.

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    Post by Philip Sun May 23, 2010 5:04 pm

    The plastic button... yes that's also weird. That's way I took a pic of it. I'll take a closer look at it.


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    Post by Philip Mon May 24, 2010 6:43 pm

    The plastic buttons don't look as the were added later. Haven't found out much more about the tunic.


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