All,
Having posted this thread elsewhere with no luck (some of you will no doubt recognise the post), I'll put it here and see if anyone can confirm my thoughts:
This smock is interesting for a number of reasons, and I'm not entirely sure if it is an Indonesian issue item.
Originally sold to me as a jacket used by Indonesian peacekeeping troops in Palestine is comes with a removable liner, wired hood and beavertail:
Smock/Jacket
Beavertail:
Hood:
Label:
Liner:
A few things stick put here that make me question the authenticity of the jacket:
1. Peacekeeping operations started in 2006
2. Standard pocket reinforcements are absent
3. The label is TNI, not the standard TNI-AD, TNI-AU or TNI-AL
4. According to a source, beavertails were last used in the 1960s.
5. TNI sizes don't usually use L for large. It's generally a B.
A few things that support it's use as an issue item:
1. The label does state TNI, where usually Indonesian manufactured fakes have only the size stamped such as LL.
2. Manufacture is quite complex, standard Indonesian fakes are in the M65 jacket category.
3. The jacket was only available from the seller as a large size, indicative of surplus, as these would generally be too large for the typical Indonesian.
4. The beavertail is unusual having never seen one on Indonesian fakes.
5. The zipper is a good quality YKK manufacture.
My thoughts at this stage are: 2003 Manufactured jacket issued in 2006.
Has anyone else seen this or have pictures of it in use?
Later jackets issued for Banda Aceh and later peacekeeping operations are distincly different. I'll post some pictures of these in the future.
Cheers,
Ben.
Having posted this thread elsewhere with no luck (some of you will no doubt recognise the post), I'll put it here and see if anyone can confirm my thoughts:
This smock is interesting for a number of reasons, and I'm not entirely sure if it is an Indonesian issue item.
Originally sold to me as a jacket used by Indonesian peacekeeping troops in Palestine is comes with a removable liner, wired hood and beavertail:
Smock/Jacket
Beavertail:
Hood:
Label:
Liner:
A few things stick put here that make me question the authenticity of the jacket:
1. Peacekeeping operations started in 2006
2. Standard pocket reinforcements are absent
3. The label is TNI, not the standard TNI-AD, TNI-AU or TNI-AL
4. According to a source, beavertails were last used in the 1960s.
5. TNI sizes don't usually use L for large. It's generally a B.
A few things that support it's use as an issue item:
1. The label does state TNI, where usually Indonesian manufactured fakes have only the size stamped such as LL.
2. Manufacture is quite complex, standard Indonesian fakes are in the M65 jacket category.
3. The jacket was only available from the seller as a large size, indicative of surplus, as these would generally be too large for the typical Indonesian.
4. The beavertail is unusual having never seen one on Indonesian fakes.
5. The zipper is a good quality YKK manufacture.
My thoughts at this stage are: 2003 Manufactured jacket issued in 2006.
Has anyone else seen this or have pictures of it in use?
Later jackets issued for Banda Aceh and later peacekeeping operations are distincly different. I'll post some pictures of these in the future.
Cheers,
Ben.