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    Czech Camo Field Cap-1961?

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    Post by Gulf91 Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:10 pm

    Sorry if its a dumb question but is the 61 the date?

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    Post by panzerwerk Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:46 pm

    Yes 61 is the date 57 is the size .
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    Post by Gulf91 Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:06 pm

    Great stuff-Thanks
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    Post by filupe Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:52 pm

    An interesting camo. I remember seeing this pattern available (mainly in jackets) well before the fall of the Eastern Bloc, when all other militaria from there, particularly camo, would cost a collector a squillion dollars! Was this pattern so fugly that the Czechs off-loaded it to us 'capitalists' to get rid of it? Anyone here know the real story ..???
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    Post by Gulf91 Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:20 am

    My 1st thoughts seeing the makers stamp with the chap wearing the flat cap was that it was commercial/civilian and looks like the issue stamp of crossed swords and 61 are a later addition?
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    Post by panzerwerk Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:16 am

    The hat is Military issue , the crossed sword stamp is the government acceptance stamp and year of .
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    Post by CollectinSteve Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:23 am

    As Steve said, the stamp is applied after manufacture on items that have been accepted for service. They are sometimes quite faint or partially imprinted. But there should always be some sign of it on a genuine piece.

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    Post by Gulf91 Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:26 am

    Great info-Thanks
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    Post by poch Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:57 am

    This camo is a little bit mysterious. Someone called it vz.58 (vz. = pattern) someone vz.60. But everyone knows it as "Mlok" (salamander). It was used by Czechoslavakia Army till the end of 60´s. Because Warshaw Pact standard pattern became "Needles" or "Rain" pattern also Czechoslovakia Army started to use "Needles" and this pattern was also vz.60!
    During 70´s and 80´s were Mlok uniforms used as work uniforms in prisons and majority were sold to Africa and Middle East. There were used by guerilas like Palestina´s Jasir Arafat, etc. From Africa is also the story where some general of UN said to the captured teenage guerila:"Take your clown suit off and go home!"
    A lot of pictured were sent to this forum by my friend Koalorka. Look at them.
    Today are Mlok uniforms very interesting for collectors and the value is still increasing.
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    Post by Gulf91 Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:09 am

    poch wrote:This camo is a little bit mysterious. Someone called it vz.58 (vz. = pattern) someone vz.60. But everyone knows it as "Mlok" (salamander). It was used by Czechoslavakia Army till the end of 60´s. Because Warshaw Pact standard pattern became "Needles" or "Rain" pattern also Czechoslovakia Army started to use "Needles" and this pattern was also vz.60!
    During 70´s and 80´s were Mlok uniforms used as work uniforms in prisons and majority were sold to Africa and Middle East. There were used by guerilas like Palestina´s Jasir Arafat, etc. From Africa is also the story where some general of UN said to the captured teenage guerila:"Take your clown suit off and go home!"
    A lot of pictured were sent to this forum by my friend Koalorka. Look at them.
    Today are Mlok uniforms very interesting for collectors and the value is still increasing.


    Very interesting,thanks for sharing that info Cool
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    Post by poch Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:06 pm

    I have to find time to do some pictures of Mlok pants and post them here. There are 2 modification: one with cargo pockets and one without.

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