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    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:34 am

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    Post by vonstuck on Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:54 pm

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:31 am

    Very hard to get 1st Model desert (vz95)! I've always wondered exactly how long they produced the smooth cotton model before moving to ripstop. So it is at least 2005. Good info to know.

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    Post by panzerwerk on Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:19 am

    Some great looking pieces , I still have yet to get a set of this , it has not been high on the list , and my pocket book has been a little light lately LOL.
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    Post by jimmyduncan23 on Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:36 am

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    Post by ripcord on Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:21 pm

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:14 pm

    Ooh!  You got one with the arm pockets.  That's been on my wish list for some time now.  I have the vz85, vz95 1st Model (solid cloth), and vz95 2nd Model (same as 1st but in ripstop).  The vz95 3rd Model, which you have, is not easily found IMHO.  If it is, then maybe I need to have a chat with my local sources Very Happy

    From what I can tell, the 3rd Model is at least as early as 2007. Complicating matters is there are modified 2nd Model jackets in at least three forms:

    1. Lower pockets removed and put on sleeves
    2. Modest sized rectangles of velcro added that kinda look like they might be pockets
    3. HUGE rectangles of velcro added

    I've got quite a few pictures of each of these and there could be more types than this.

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    Post by mylle on Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:57 am

    Nice find S., I like those blouses too.
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    Post by ripcord on Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:02 pm

    Thanks Alex,

    Typical great Czech quality garment.

    A bit too much velcro for my taste, but it is made super well  with usual attention to details..

    Should  be fun finding matching trousers..


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    Post by ripcord on Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:36 am

    Steve, thanks for the info about  the 2 types of VZ95.

    I believe mine is designated either VZ 2000 or M 2000 > I thought it was the first ripstop type.









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    Post by CollectinSteve on Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:02 am

    Both ripstop types are vz95. Look at your label in the above picture Wink

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    Post by ripcord on Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:00 pm

    Just found matching shorts ; the tag also has type 95..


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    Post by Thibir on Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:02 pm

    The tag says:

    "jacket (vz.) 95, summer with tan print - R"

    I don´t know what the "R" means. Also I saw similar jacket from another manufacturer and the tag said "jacket (vz.) 95, summer with tan print modernized - R"
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    Post by ripcord on Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:09 pm

    Hello T..

    Maybe it just means ripstop..

    There is an R on tag on desert shorts, as well.

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:48 am

    I can confirm a -R on my ripstop set without pockets on sleeves. Thibir, could R stand for Ripstop? It sure would make sense if it did Wink

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    Post by HEB on Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:47 pm

    hey guys, i bought this set. What is that exactly? VZ.85 desert uniform? I have no ideas of czech stuff.

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    Post by HEB on Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:49 pm

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    Post by ripcord on Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:06 pm

    HEB wrote:hey guys, i bought this set. What is that exactly? VZ.85 desert uniform? I have no ideas of czech stuff.

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    Yes Exactly.  VZ 85  desert uniform .  Nice matching set BTW..




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    Post by Tonkatsudon on Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:49 pm

    How was that button-up shirt (the one with the two chest pockets and exposed buttons) worn? Did they wear it tucked in, like old-school uniforms?

    Kind of interesting to see them using that style of dress in 2005. They upgraded to a more modern cut afterwards, it seems!
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    Post by ripcord on Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:07 pm

    I think those shirts would be worn in garrison tucked into pants, but suppose they could also be worn with shorts on peacekeeping missions and such..
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:08 pm

    This uniform is more properly designated vz95, not vz85. But like so many things out there, resellers and collectors interchange the two because the camo pattern is thought of as vz85 since it hasn't changed since then.

    The vz85 uniform was a family of uniforms originally OD/OG and then was transformed into woodland and desert without changing much of anything about the cut. Here's a good thread to check out:

    https://iacmc.forumotion.com/t944-vz-85-uniform

    The vz95 cut is similar, but has a lot of distinct differences. In particular the pockets have pleats in them vs. the vz85's no pleats. vz85 has no elbow reinforcements, no cuff flaps for buttoning, etc.

    At some point (I forget when) the vz95 desert was switched over to ripstop. Later on, arm pockets were added as a field modification. I don't remember if that got formalized into a factory application or not.

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    Post by HEB on Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:42 pm

    thx Steve!
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    Post by ripcord on Sun May 24, 2020 3:30 pm

    Good score, Alex..

    Now we both need ripstop trousers to match..


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