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    Post by Bury_Dave Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:01 pm

    Just a near mint and unwashed early, pale DPM Para Smock. Probably one of the first to get a NATO size label. The material is identical to some 1960 Pattern DPM smocks I once had.

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    Post by Tyler Flint Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:08 am

    Me Likey! Very Happy
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    Post by Bury_Dave Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:14 am

    Glad someone appreciates it ! Very Happy I'm amazed at some of the appreciative comments some of the common as muck stuff that gets posted in the Bragging rights section attracts when there are little gems all over the country specific zones that seem to get totally overlooked. Let's be honest, US woodland ain't exactly rare yet is it, EH ? Laughing
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    Post by Easy Gee Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:17 pm

    Bury_Dave wrote:Glad someone appreciates it ! Very Happy I'm amazed at some of the appreciative comments some of the common as muck stuff that gets posted in the Bragging rights section attracts when there are little gems all over the country specific zones that seem to get totally overlooked. Let's be honest, US woodland ain't exactly rare yet is it, EH ? Laughing


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    Post by kammo-man Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:54 pm

    Seen plenty of these in NI .


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    Post by loski Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:14 pm

    HI Dave Nice
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    Post by Guessologist Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:35 pm



    Still nice though........ I'd like one in my collection.


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    Post by koalorka Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:18 pm

    One of the nicest examples of the early DPM para smock. Hold onto it dearly. And I agree, these things don't nearly get the recognition they deserve because they are generally similar to the later 1980s stuff that is a dime a dozen.
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    Post by Bury_Dave Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:04 pm

    kammo-man wrote:Seen plenty of these in NI .


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    Not since 1984 you haven't ! Smocks took a severe bashing over there and soon wore out as I'm sure you know only too well. That's why they are so rare now.

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    Post by kammo-man Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:01 pm

    D ,
    I was born in Belfast mate !
    1966.

    Seen a lot of DPM over the years .............

    The best one was being stopped by Paras and being asked "what the F#*k was I doing wearing a WW2 Dennison smock" .........
    Had to fess up and tell the lads I collected which was always met with smiles!!!!!
    Smock came from a local Arnhem vet who gave it to me along with a FS knife and a 44 patt waterbottle cover .
    He wore the jacket in combat but gave it to me to play war when I was around 10ish.
    He lived 2 doors up from me !!
    I think it was the Revelle STUKA with the snake decal down the side that alerted his to my war nut status.
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    Post by Bury_Dave Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:13 pm

    Kin 'ell man !! What a great couple of stories !

    Yep, you saw your share of DPM and then some. Not happy days though but hopefully behind us for good.

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    Post by kammo-man Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:58 pm

    D ,
    I split in 89 for London !!!

    But I will tell you I was NOT shy about asking for Berets , badges and spotting any Squaddie with anything different on their kit.....

    different DPM spotting was quite a hobby for me as a kid , was pretty sad when the old Dennison patterns faded out as DPM was quite boring after seeing a nice PARA 12 man foot patrol waltzing down the street looking cocky and acting war like with some lovely wooden stocked SLRs .............but I degress ,
    My brothers mated Da flew Lysanders into France and he could tell some mad stories about different stuff , thats where I heard as a kid about the SOE suit with its camouflage breef case covers .......thought he was pulling my leg until I seen one in the IWM in south London !!!!

    Mate I could go on and one about finding squaddie dropped stuff ..like my NI gloves found on the street that fell of the hatch of a 109 !....they were wet ..but my pride and joy for a few years until someone knicked them from me a school !

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    Post by Tyler Flint Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:18 pm

    I get lots of CF Issue Kit at Cadets thats just been left here and there around base, I must admit theres nothing better then finding a piece to add to your collection for free.
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    Post by Albano Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:29 am

    Thats my top favourite in the vast range of british DPM smocks made so far. Must get hands on one of those.
    Thanks for sharing Dave!

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    Post by Tommo Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:16 pm

    This one is mine, its identical to Dave's except in a bit worse condition and heavily faded, this was at the Falklands Filming for the Yesterday Channel (Sky 537), I'll be on telly on the 1st April at 9pm if anyone fancies a watch! Wink

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    Post by Bury_Dave Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:19 pm

    Looks good Tommo. I'll keep an eye out for you !

    Now how about a good photo of the smock in all it's glory ? Very Happy
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    Post by Tommo Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:23 pm

    I got it for £15 on eBay a few years ago, it had pockets on the back, compass pouch on the front, holes and a black zip and cuffs, all the holes have been repaired and the pockets removed and the cuffs replaced, only the compass pouch remains and the black zip, but can I find a YKK OD zip? nope! Wink

    Here we go:

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    Heres my other, again its had longer cuffs fitted and there was a hood in the pocket when I got it, good condition though, this was £30:

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    Post by Bury_Dave Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:31 pm

    Very nice Tommo, thanks for posting them. What sizes are they ?

    Oh, and how long is the zipper you need to replace that crappy looking plastic one ? I MAY be able to help .... if not directly then getting you in touch with a supplier who can help you.

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    Post by Tommo Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:36 pm

    Not sure mate, the faded one is quite big whereas the other one is very small, theres no labels so I can't give exact sizes Sad

    I think I measured it to about 30 inch, not quite sure, will double check, however many thanks!
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    Post by Bury_Dave Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:40 pm

    I reckon a size 7, 8 or 9 '68 pattern zipper might be long enough ...... I'll see if I've got one that's past its' best and can cannibalise the zipper for you.
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    Post by koalorka Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:43 pm

    What's the most reliable way to tell apart these early P77 smocks from the newer 1980s examples without looking at the print?

    Brass-looking Newey snaps? The labels?
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    Post by Tommo Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:45 pm

    Newey Poppers, No Right FFD Pocket and they have the same YKK OG Zip as the P60 and P68 Jackets.
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    Post by Tommo Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:45 pm

    Yep, around 30 Inch mate, and cheers Dave, your a star!
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    Post by Bury_Dave Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:47 pm

    Don't get too excited yet ! I'll do my level best though Very Happy
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    Post by loski Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:04 pm

    Tommo wrote:This one is mine, its identical to Dave's except in a bit worse condition and heavily faded, this was at the Falklands Filming for the Yesterday Channel (Sky 537), I'll be on telly on the 1st April at 9pm if anyone fancies a watch! Wink

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    was the yesterday prog actualy filmed in the Falklands.

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