ERDL Jacket-Special Forces.

As bought/unmessed with so no idea if original Nam or Post Nam insignia/patches.

very nice example i like the insignias gulf

Loooks put together. SF, Pathfinder and Ranger scroll look too new. Don't know of anyone who used that Ranger scroll that just had Inf on the tail of the scroll. All Ranger companies in RVN had the letter of the Company on the tail.

treetop wrote:Loooks put together. SF, Pathfinder and Ranger scroll look too new. Don't know of anyone who used that Ranger scroll that just had Inf on the tail of the scroll. All Ranger companies in RVN had the letter of the Company on the tail.

No idea,as said,that is how it came to me

Love it Rich, I'm no expert on these things( put together or not),it's a cool item nevertheless

Looks post Vietnam to me.
All US made patches...........
not saying they were not used in-country but .....

Post on USMF , there are plenty of guys there with access to the service records.
your boy just might turn up !!!

It's also unusual to see a Ranger current unit, but an SF combat patch.

First, that Ain't Erdel! Which answers the question of originality.
That is the first pattern BDUs with slant pockets like Jungles. These were around for 3 - 5 yrs from about 76(?).
Look at the tags, they will tell you the contrakt date.
As for the Ranger scroll and SF combat patch - Why not??? At some time he was reassigned out of SF. This was a common practice in the 60s & 70s till we got own branch.
Sarge

Sarge wrote:First, that Ain't Erdel! Which answers the question of originality.
That is the first pattern BDUs with slant pockets like Jungles. These were around for 3 - 5 yrs from about 76(?).
Look at the tags, they will tell you the contrakt date.
As for the Ranger scroll and SF combat patch - Why not??? At some time he was reassigned out of SF. This was a common practice in the 60s & 70s till we got own branch.
Sarge

Jacket is packed away so cannot at this time check the other label but will do when i can.

Now,while i dont know much about the insignia/patches i am 99.99999% sure that the jacket IS a Vietnam period Erdl jacket-POST VIETNAM a SIMILAR jacket was issued(not for a long period) and that again was in ERDL(not the later Woodland) and was very,very similar except for the chest pockets which were straight and NOT slanted-these are commonly referred to by collectors as the RDF pattern.

As I said - That Ain't Erdel! Not even close. It IS early woodland from the late 70s.
IF I can get this site to attach photos, been having problems lately, I'll show you the green Erdel. Brown was identical except more brown than green.
Well still no luck getting a photo to attach. Email me and I'll send you the photo.
Sarge

There are 5 different US made ERDL prints from the war

kammo-man wrote:There are 5 different US made ERDL prints from the war

Of which mine is one of them

Agreed .

I'd like to see a photo of the 5 together. When I was there - 69/70 - there were only 2 - green & brown dominant. The pattern was identical except for the color. I sent home some of both. I've never before heard of any other variants.
Again I ask - What do the tags say, How about photos of the them?
Sarge

--I know what you mean, Sarge. I have found some ERDL that I'd swear was early Woodland, but it isn't. This boonie looks brand-new, and as if it shipped in the early-to-mid 1980's,


But...



It is from 1971.

The difference between this, and the jungle jacket posted above is in the bleed. The ranger-jacket looks like one of the patterns that had fuzzy edges, making it of an even earlier vintage than this, I *think*.

(Somebody may correct me here, but based on lots of looking, that's what I've found).

I will try to dig it out again and IF it still has its label i will put money on it being either 1969 or early 70s dated.

You're undoubtedly right. '69\'70, most likely .

RDF pattern with fake contract label ......

kammo-man wrote:RDF pattern with fake contract label ......

Have to agree regarding the label-starts with DLA

DSA 70's legit? DLA 80's?

sh4pak wrote:DSA 70's legit? DLA 80's?

Yep,changed from DSA to DLA in from memory 1977 or 78??

Made for the Army surplus market .

When anything has Made in USA .its not issue as a rule of thumb whan dealing with Nam-post Nam items .

---Ahhh.... this is the Litmus Test, then?

Good to know.

Learning, learning, learning...

And, I'm guessing the "1234" part smacks of bogusness, too, yes?

But, back to the initial point-- the bleeding edges of Gulf's jacket here are pretty much an indicator of authenticity, are they not?