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    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:34 am

    As bought/unmessed with so no idea if original Nam or Post Nam insignia/patches.

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    Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:40 am

    very nice example i like the insignias gulf
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    Post by treetop on Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:38 pm

    Loooks put together. SF, Pathfinder and Ranger scroll look too new. Don't know of anyone who used that Ranger scroll that just had Inf on the tail of the scroll. All Ranger companies in RVN had the letter of the Company on the tail.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:53 pm

    treetop wrote:Loooks put together. SF, Pathfinder and Ranger scroll look too new. Don't know of anyone who used that Ranger scroll that just had Inf on the tail of the scroll. All Ranger companies in RVN had the letter of the Company on the tail.

    No idea,as said,that is how it came to me Wink
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    Post by Easy Gee on Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:58 pm

    Love it Rich, I'm no expert on these things( put together or not),it's a cool item nevertheless Wink
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    Post by kammo-man on Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:42 am

    Looks post Vietnam to me.
    All US made patches...........
    not saying they were not used in-country but .....

    Post on USMF , there are plenty of guys there with access to the service records.
    your boy just might turn up !!!

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    Post by John Brown on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:22 pm

    It's also unusual to see a Ranger current unit, but an SF combat patch.
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    Post by Sarge on Mon May 07, 2012 5:22 am

    First, that Ain't Erdel! Which answers the question of originality.
    That is the first pattern BDUs with slant pockets like Jungles. These were around for 3 - 5 yrs from about 76(?).
    Look at the tags, they will tell you the contrakt date.
    As for the Ranger scroll and SF combat patch - Why not??? At some time he was reassigned out of SF. This was a common practice in the 60s & 70s till we got own branch.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Mon May 07, 2012 5:42 am

    Sarge wrote:First, that Ain't Erdel! Which answers the question of originality.
    That is the first pattern BDUs with slant pockets like Jungles. These were around for 3 - 5 yrs from about 76(?).
    Look at the tags, they will tell you the contrakt date.
    As for the Ranger scroll and SF combat patch - Why not??? At some time he was reassigned out of SF. This was a common practice in the 60s & 70s till we got own branch.
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    Jacket is packed away so cannot at this time check the other label but will do when i can.

    Now,while i dont know much about the insignia/patches i am 99.99999% sure that the jacket IS a Vietnam period Erdl jacket-POST VIETNAM a SIMILAR jacket was issued(not for a long period) and that again was in ERDL(not the later Woodland) and was very,very similar except for the chest pockets which were straight and NOT slanted-these are commonly referred to by collectors as the RDF pattern.
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    Post by Sarge on Mon May 07, 2012 6:30 am

    As I said - That Ain't Erdel! Not even close. It IS early woodland from the late 70s.
    IF I can get this site to attach photos, been having problems lately, I'll show you the green Erdel. Brown was identical except more brown than green.
    Well still no luck getting a photo to attach. Email me and I'll send you the photo.
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    Post by kammo-man on Mon May 07, 2012 11:10 am

    There are 5 different US made ERDL prints from the war
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    Post by Gulf91 on Mon May 07, 2012 11:13 am

    kammo-man wrote:There are 5 different US made ERDL prints from the war

    Of which mine is one of them Wink
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    Post by kammo-man on Mon May 07, 2012 12:21 pm

    Agreed .
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    Post by Sarge on Tue May 08, 2012 4:56 am

    I'd like to see a photo of the 5 together. When I was there - 69/70 - there were only 2 - green & brown dominant. The pattern was identical except for the color. I sent home some of both. I've never before heard of any other variants.
    Again I ask - What do the tags say, How about photos of the them?
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    Post by sh4pak on Tue May 08, 2012 10:13 am

    --I know what you mean, Sarge. I have found some ERDL that I'd swear was early Woodland, but it isn't. This boonie looks brand-new, and as if it shipped in the early-to-mid 1980's,
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    It is from 1971.

    The difference between this, and the jungle jacket posted above is in the bleed. The ranger-jacket looks like one of the patterns that had fuzzy edges, making it of an even earlier vintage than this, I *think*.

    (Somebody may correct me here, but based on lots of looking, that's what I've found).
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    Post by Gulf91 on Tue May 08, 2012 12:33 pm

    I will try to dig it out again and IF it still has its label i will put money on it being either 1969 or early 70s dated.
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    Post by sh4pak on Tue May 08, 2012 1:04 pm

    You're undoubtedly right. '69\'70, most likely .
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    Post by kammo-man on Tue May 08, 2012 1:12 pm

    RDF pattern with fake contract label ......

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    Post by Gulf91 on Tue May 08, 2012 1:17 pm

    kammo-man wrote:RDF pattern with fake contract label ......


    Have to agree regarding the label-starts with DLA Laughing Laughing Laughing
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    Post by sh4pak on Tue May 08, 2012 1:22 pm

    DSA 70's legit? DLA 80's?
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    Post by Gulf91 on Tue May 08, 2012 1:27 pm

    sh4pak wrote:DSA 70's legit? DLA 80's?

    Yep,changed from DSA to DLA in from memory 1977 or 78??
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    Post by kammo-man on Tue May 08, 2012 2:55 pm

    Made for the Army surplus market .

    When anything has Made in USA .its not issue as a rule of thumb whan dealing with Nam-post Nam items .





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    Post by sh4pak on Tue May 08, 2012 3:20 pm



    ---Ahhh.... this is the Litmus Test, then?

    Good to know.

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    Post by sh4pak on Tue May 08, 2012 3:21 pm

    And, I'm guessing the "1234" part smacks of bogusness, too, yes?
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    Post by sh4pak on Tue May 08, 2012 3:31 pm

    But, back to the initial point-- the bleeding edges of Gulf's jacket here are pretty much an indicator of authenticity, are they not?

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