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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:21 pm

    my JNA Yugoslavian-Serbian camouflage sniper suit branch pattern cammo 1976 dated jacket and trousers JNA  camouflage sniper suit 100_2183JNA  camouflage sniper suit 100_2196
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    Post by saltefanden Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:25 am

    Oh yes, a fine suit indeed!

    I recieved mine nicely folded up into a square, pouch-like bundle with a strap to carry it by. Like you I folded it out, splayed it and never figured out how to fold it back up again, so not it has been hung, wrapped around a couple of coathangers Embarassed
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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:06 pm

    hi saltefanden i know exactly what you mean mine came in a nice cammo holdall i now cant put it back as neat as it was too what year is yours dated please regards jay
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    Post by saltefanden Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:06 pm

    Hey J.C.,


    Like yours mine is dated 1976, despite a button been sewn right onto the label, the same maker, just in a larger size V (5) for my long-ass frame.


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    Like most others on this very forum, I'm crazy about this pattern and am constantly scouring for the few Balkan-made jackets or vests (I believe I've even seen a full jump suit somewhere?) in this very material and pattern!

    If anyone has a 'how-to-fold-back-a-Yugoslavian-branch-camo-sniper-suit' link on YouTube, now we are two who'd greatly appreciate it!
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    Post by Camo_fiend Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:14 pm

    I couldn't begin to tell you how to fold the suit back, but I will say I really like these things. It's a cool pattern from a very interesting time of European history.

    Nice finds and thanks for sharing them!


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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:35 pm

    your very welcome ben and saltefanden im now thinking i should have gone for a v5 as im 6ft 5 myself its nice to see your label though and thanks for posting the pictures
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    Post by saltefanden Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:47 am

    Please JayCee,

    Should you bag a size 5, be VERY careful and write down the fold-out procedure, preferably with photo documentation Laughing

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    Post by sgtfcm Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:55 am

    I do have one of these but I have a question for you guys: do you know if it ever existed a jacket+trousers set with this pattern? My answer would be yes, since few days ago I saw one man wearing a pair of pants which were not belonging to this sniper set, while traveling in Slovenia. In farmland it is pretty common to see old stuff still utilised. He was close enough to me to see they were factory stitched and not customised. Any informations ?
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:04 am

    Never seen or heard of anything other than the sniper suit. There are custom made pieces from shelter halves. Maybe someone used surplus sniper uniform fabric for some fashion items?

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    Post by sgtfcm Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:44 am

    Hi Steve, I'm sure it wasn't a custom made pair of pants. I also thought of that at first but then I got closer and looked carefully trying not to look as a stalker, and they looked factory issued. I asked a contact in Serbia and he confirmed that a set of jacket+pants existed. I'm trying now to get some pics and possibly a set!
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:25 pm

    This is interesting information! I've never seen anybody talk about a factory made uniform except for the sniper suit. But the early period of the war saw a lot of very unusual uniforms used by all sides. Please let us know if you obtain any more information.

    Thanks!

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    Post by vonstuck Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:07 pm

    Maybe it is a Bosnian made as my jacket: https://iacmc.forumotion.com/t3541-bosnian-camouflage
    Ivory Coast for this picture
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:11 pm

    Gilles,

    About the jacket you have. It looks like it is made from shelter half material. I don't mean from shelter halves, but from surplus cloth. Is that correct?

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    Post by sgtfcm Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:26 am

    uhm...maybe that is the jacket that goes with the pants I saw. But I do believe it was made during JNA, just like the so called sniper suit.
    As for the other bosnian "rain" pattern I have a dejavu : I brought back an identical jacket + patch in 1993-1994 and sold it abroad. Did not take pics of my stuff at the time but the roads of collecting sometimes are odd Smile
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    Post by jeva Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:51 am

    It is strange that so many of these suits exist.
    Travnik was in the center of the war in 1993 and 1994.I have seen these suits ,mostly the jacket, used all over Bosnia.
    I also know all over the former Yougo there were depo,s with gear.
    There was a shortage in uniforms all over .They tried to steele our gear many did wear X german stuff French boots.

    I think ist strange to see so many in new condtion.AND yes I own also 1 set.
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    Post by sgtfcm Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:13 am

    the reason is that, imo, they were not so exclusively distributed as the name "sniper suit" might lead to think. JNA was a LARGE organisation and I think many of unissued suits and uniforms were left idling in the Army bases. I can tell you that in military/flea market fairs in Slovenia they are pretty common too.
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    Post by edstorey Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:15 am

    I picked up this Hat along with matching Shirt and Trousers while serving with the UN in Croatia in 1993.

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    Post by sgtfcm Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:35 am

    Hi Ed , interesting hat! Could you post the pants and the jacket? thank you

    PS - In which part of Croatia you were stationed?
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    Post by vonstuck Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:16 pm

    CollectinSteve wrote:Gilles,

    About the jacket you have. It looks like it is made from shelter half material. I don't mean from shelter halves, but from surplus cloth. Is that correct?

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    Sure, my jacket is build with same tent material but I don't know if it is with surplus cloth or it is shelter who are cut
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    Post by sgtfcm Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:32 pm

    I have here a shelter and a "sniper" suit. I don't think the suit is made with same cloth, it is slightly lighter
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:17 pm

    Correct that the sniper suit is made from soft cotton with white backing, the shelter half a thick canvas with green backing. The jacket Gilles posted a picture of (Bosnian) is made from shelter half material, as are a pair of trousers I have somewhere in my collection. The hat posted above is also probably made from shelter half material as are many other items (like the chestrig in the thread Gilles linked to).

    Here is where we get into a sort of gray area. In times of crisis all kinds of things happen. Soldiers on all sides of the conflict in the Balkans were initially under equipped. They used pretty much anything they could find, including surplus uniforms from foreign countries. If a clothing manufacturer (small or large) had a shortage of cloth, they would fix the problem as quickly as possible. If there was spare shelter half material lying around, then it would be used for the time being. This makes the uniform an official factory made item, but not really a planned one. Not that it makes much difference Very Happy

    The question is.. what is the Ivory Coast soldier wearing. Is it made from surplus sniper suit cloth?

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    Post by Martin Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:21 pm

    These suits are an excellent example of really nice, unique, cold war era, Eastern Bloc type camouflage patterns. I really like them - really cool, affordable, unique, communist era camo. I bought three for $50 each several years ago, now I see you can get them for $25 each. I wonder if they were really expensive before the market was flooded, just like the Swiss Alpenflage?

    There are also the vests made in this pattern with extra black overprint.

    The Ivory Coast dude has green backing - see rolled up sleeve - so may be shelter material - but it doesn't look like thick material.
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    Post by sgtfcm Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:14 am

    I remember that back in the late 80's these suits were quite hard to get. And so the the other sniper suit which vaguely resemble the SS dot pattern. Those were quite expensive as well. Now, you can get both quite cheap. I got mine from Serbia at a cheaper price I would pay in Slovenia, around the corner.
    I'll be in the village where I saw the pants in few weeks and I'll stay few days there. Hopefully I will meet the guy again and maybe I can come back with more info.
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    Post by zoranis Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:20 am

    here it's known as reconnaissance suit

    here is a picture of 'Volunteers' movie DVD, where actors wear uniforms in this pattern
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    sorry couldn't get better picture from movie
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    Post by CollectinSteve Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:29 pm

    Yeah, these suits used to go for more money. I've seen some on eBay not even sell for $25 because of the postage being another $40. The market is saturated with these. And the number I've seen in unissued, or near unissued, condition is amazing. Looks like someone forgot about a warehouse during the war.

    The same thing happened with the "Mountain" pattern suits. Going rate for a good one was $150 and now it's down in the $25 range. Tons of them.

    Similarly... Bulgarian "Frog" and early splinter coveralls used to be very, very expensive before 1990. Hundreds of dollars for used ones in poor condition. Now you can get all the brand new ones you want for under $50 any day on eBay. And it's been like that for years.

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