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    Chinese Sumpftarn?

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    Post by sh4pak Fri May 18, 2012 4:08 pm

    --Clearly, this is not real, nor is it from Sturm/MilTec (fake as they may be, their stuff is well-built).

    No, this is something else entirely.
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    It is made of a fabric that calls to mind pajamas, has US-style buttons & slide-tabs, and is completely unmarked. The pattern itself has a completely wrong bleed to it, and the overall quality seems to be inadequate, even for Airsoft.

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    And yet... I bought it. Probably because it was dirt-cheap, and I can always use a new set of pajamas. =]

    I also ran across these, which I'm guessing are commercial hunting, but I figured I'd ask before jumping to conclusions.:

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    They didn't come from the same factory as the others, that much I am sure of, but that's the only thing I am sure about. They also have no tags.
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    Post by CollectinSteve Fri May 18, 2012 4:41 pm

    The Sumpftarn set was made by some company named "Hanger" something or other (Hanger III?). I forget what off the top of my head. Not very common, but at one time they were the only Sumpftarn fakes out there. They were made in the early 1990s IIRC.

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    Post by sh4pak Fri May 18, 2012 4:53 pm

    Thank you, Steve. Love it when a mystery is resolved. =]
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    Post by drmatz Fri May 18, 2012 5:03 pm

    there's a few african countries that also worn that uniform... Libya was one of those countries...
    for the pants, they do look a bit modern looking, but you never know... any other tags or labels, or any markings inside?

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    Post by sh4pak Fri May 18, 2012 5:05 pm



    --Unfortunately, no-- no markings of any kind. There appears to be a spot on the jacket where a tag might have been removed, but it was done so surgically. Interestingly, the slide-tabs show signs of laundering, so these were worn by somebody-- they just never did anything strenuous. Wink
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    Post by Albano Sat May 19, 2012 10:29 am

    I wouldn't mind to have a set of PJ's like that Twisted Evil

    For a fake it surely is a "unique" item.

    Best regards

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    Post by sh4pak Sat May 19, 2012 11:30 am


    --Albano,

    Indeed! Much more fun than offerings from Paul Frank, or Calvin Klein. Despite what may sound like a dim view on my part, I'm pleased as can be with finds like this.
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat May 19, 2012 12:29 pm

    drmatz wrote:there's a few african countries that also worn that uniform... Libya was one of those countries...

    I suppose it's possible, since short contracts without any regard to standards, is the normal way of doing things in Africa. But I have not yet seen a photo of this particular cut. And usually the Libyan Sumpftarn is more dense than the BGS type. A lot more rain strokes, less tan, etc.

    I'd love to see verification that this is Libyan because I think I still have a spare shirt lying around somewhere. I know I sold at least one full set many, may years ago. Which reminded me to look at the old pics I have of that one...

    The company's name is "Hanger II, Inc". The label had a bogus stock number and the size written in large letters "MEDIUM". I sold a set a brand new set in 2005 on eBay for $25. Clearly nobody thought it was Libyan Wink

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    Post by sh4pak Sun May 20, 2012 4:17 pm

    I'm inclined to side with Steve on this one, mainly because the trousers are nicked from the US BDU pattern-- exactly. The shirt is a lot different-- but the pants have the same folds on the pockets, and everything. It would be cool if they were Lybian, but I'm guessing more US aftermarket than that.

    Still.. they actually fit me, and were an insanely "out of the blue" thing to find at the thrift shoppe.

    I have no complaints. =]
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    Post by cammobunker Sun May 20, 2012 11:54 pm

    Yeah, I remember these, mid to late 90's though I think. Utterly commercial, I believe that these were distributed by one of the big surplus wholesalers up in New York.

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