this sold on ebay for 300 pounds never seen it before any know what this is?
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Irish pattern?
jimmyduncan23- Major
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Irish pattern?
this sold on ebay for 300 pounds never seen it before any know what this is?
saltefanden- Lieutenant
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Re: Irish pattern?
Experimental?
The cut looks identical to any shirt made by either PORTWEST, CARRA/SEYNTEX or SEYNTEX I've seen, down to angled pockets, rank slip, neck tag and hanger and the overall ratio between chest/torso size (big) and lenth of the sleeves (short).
And I'm convinced I've seen an early 'trial' version of Irish DPM somewhere on this very forum (In all probability in Mr. Vonstucks collection ), but that was quite different and no where near this ERDL-type pattern.
Did the thing go to you or were there any more info in the eBay auction?
The cut looks identical to any shirt made by either PORTWEST, CARRA/SEYNTEX or SEYNTEX I've seen, down to angled pockets, rank slip, neck tag and hanger and the overall ratio between chest/torso size (big) and lenth of the sleeves (short).
And I'm convinced I've seen an early 'trial' version of Irish DPM somewhere on this very forum (In all probability in Mr. Vonstucks collection ), but that was quite different and no where near this ERDL-type pattern.
Did the thing go to you or were there any more info in the eBay auction?
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Re: Irish pattern?
That pattern looks almost exactly like the Singaporean ERDL camo I have... but other than the pattern similarity, I'm clueless as to what it could be.
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saltefanden- Lieutenant
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Re: Irish pattern?
My Singapore ERDL is much more yellow and greenish blue in colours, has a much more 'conservative' BDU cut and it doesn't have an Irish flag on the shoulder
Really interesting shirt, I can't wait to know more!
Really interesting shirt, I can't wait to know more!
panzerwerk- Colonel
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Re: Irish pattern?
I would bet its one of the commercial sets made by the company below for the airsoft community , rare but not Military ! Would need to see the tag. They made sets in several camo patterns .
CollectinSteve- ADMIN
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Re: Irish pattern?
That's my guess too. Just because there is a national badge shouldn't fool us into thinking it's legit.
Having said that, I have no idea what that jacket is, as opposed to the one Steve just posted a pic of. We had a discussion about that one before.
Steve
Having said that, I have no idea what that jacket is, as opposed to the one Steve just posted a pic of. We had a discussion about that one before.
Steve
jimmyduncan23- Major
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Re: Irish pattern?
yer im stumped it had the sentex carra tags with 2007 like the issued irish gear
CollectinSteve- ADMIN
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Re: Irish pattern?
Indeed? That's unexpected. I'm sensing the need to PM someone who might know...
Steve
Steve
panzerwerk- Colonel
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Re: Irish pattern?
Interesting !!
fourtycoats- Sergeant Major
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Sample?
I have seen one off examples of other patterns considered for use in Ireland.They were not really "trials" as that implies some volume use and testing. I suspect that this pattern, like the others, was a "sample" to see how it looked when made up. The only patterns I have seen which were produced in volume were the French CE pattern, in small numbers, and the current issued pattern. I have seen other one offs from Seyntex, which played around with the design of the garment, not the pattern
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Re: Irish pattern?
Cool! Thanks for that info. Definitely makes that jacket worth more than commercial prices.
Come to think of it, Seyntex has a history of this. I have pics of German Flecktarn being used in a Belgian style Denison. I'm not talking about the outdated Belgian Airforce Flecktarn, which is distinctly different, but current German Flecktarn. I also have pics of a standard issue Bundeswehr parka shell in Belgian Jigsaw.
Curious!!
Steve
Come to think of it, Seyntex has a history of this. I have pics of German Flecktarn being used in a Belgian style Denison. I'm not talking about the outdated Belgian Airforce Flecktarn, which is distinctly different, but current German Flecktarn. I also have pics of a standard issue Bundeswehr parka shell in Belgian Jigsaw.
Curious!!
Steve
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Re: Irish pattern?
I think that both of these photos came from me as I have these items . One of my best sources of such items lives in Belgium and regularly deals with Seyntex
panzerwerk- Colonel
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Re: Irish pattern?
So maybe just a sample ?? Very Cool !!!
saltefanden- Lieutenant
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Re: Irish pattern?
Fourtycoats, would that be Marc in Belgium? Can he find stuff like that?
fourtycoats- Sergeant Major
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Re: Irish pattern?
The main man I get my Seyntex stuff from is Pascal.
saltefanden- Lieutenant
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Re: Irish pattern?
Have not made Pascals aqquaintance, but do kiss and tell
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John 23rd(The book of revelations)
Most of life is a mystery.
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Re: Irish pattern?
Hi all. I bought the set in Belgium direct from a guy who has access to the seyntex factory so I know its real. An Irish friend told me it was a one off custom made copy that was passed to the Irish but they rejected it.
CollectinSteve- ADMIN
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Re: Irish pattern?
Thanks for stopping by with that! As I posted a ways up, I have seen other Seyntex "one offs" too. So it all makes sense to me. We also know Seyntex is (or is it was?) an official contractor for the Irish gov't.
On a personal note, many of us have probably bought a thing or two from you over the years, so thanks for that too. Always good to see a familiar face (virtually speaking!)
Steve
On a personal note, many of us have probably bought a thing or two from you over the years, so thanks for that too. Always good to see a familiar face (virtually speaking!)
Steve
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Re: Irish pattern?
fourtycoats- Sergeant Major
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Re: Irish pattern?
qckid wrote:Hi all. I bought the set in Belgium direct from a guy who has access to the seyntex factory so I know its real. An Irish friend told me it was a one off custom made copy that was passed to the Irish but they rejected it.
Hello John, nice to see you on here. I hope you have some nice goodies in store for when I see you in Malvern in March.