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    Post by Gulf91 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:51 pm

    Was there such a thing issued/used by the DDR Military?
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    Post by Camo_fiend on Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:09 pm

    Not sure...was hoping you'd posted one, because I've never seen such a thing! Laughing


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    Post by Gulf91 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:16 pm

    Neither have I hence my question but then again Im not into DDR stuff as such but may have something interesting on the way:shock: 
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:56 pm

    I've never seen anything. My guess is they did have such things for highly specialized purposes, but for sure it wasn't more than that. If you put yourself back in time, body armor wasn't normal issue for most nations. Certainly in West Germany they were only beginning to mess around with body armor in the late 1980s on a scale worth mentioning.

    In fact, I can't think of any nation not actively engaged in warfare that had widespread use of body armor or frag vests at the time. The difference is, I think, that many nations had them in limited use. Which means that while the average soldier didn't have one issued there were some sitting in a warehouse somewhere. As far as I know most of the Eastern Bloc did not.

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    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:54 am

    Hasnt arrived yet(Friday I hope) but here are a few of the sellers pics---

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    Post by CollectinSteve on Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:55 pm

    Holy crow!  Now there's a find!  I figured something existed, but I've not seen anything until now. Not even in some of my otherwise excellent DDR books.

    Do you know if it has MdI or NVA mark?  MdI is what I would expect. Kinda looks like it might be for anit-riot purposes.

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    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:23 pm

    As soon as it arrvies will take and post loads of pics.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:23 pm

    Arrived and weighs a TON,must be near 35kgs. Pics on the way.

    Each individual part has a white Ink Stamped box with what looks like NVA,1958 and some other stuff but mostly unreadable unfortunately.
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:12 pm

    Cool. Looking forward to it.

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    Post by Gulf91 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:32 pm

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    Sorry I cannot get any clear pics of the Inkstamping thanks to my rubbish camera but will give it a go again.
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    Post by cammobunker on Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:04 pm

    Well, I'll be dipped. I'd no idea such a thing existed. There can't be many of these floating around out there, as not only have I never seen one, I've never even heard of one and  it is entirely possible this item has never been documented before...
    I wonder. Trials/test piece?
    Hmm...looks like the standard NVA stamp, NVA/Facility#/quarter and year code


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    Post by Martin on Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:26 pm

    This is really interesting. Thanks for sharing.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:27 pm

    Martin wrote:This is really interesting. Thanks for sharing.
    My Pleasure.
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:16 pm

    That is an amazing bit of kit you have there Gulf. If you ever get tired of it I could send you a container load of stuff to replace it Very Happy

    Can you read ink stamp? It looks like:

    NVA
    1958
    ????

    The third line is the one we need to determine the date. But one interesting thing is that this is an Army item. I figured it might have been MdI, but it obviously isn't. And looking into the strange overlapping fiber panels it doesn't look like riot protection after all.

    This is a very strange item, that's for sure!

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    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:22 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:That is an amazing bit of kit you have there Gulf.  If you ever get tired of it I could send you a container load of stuff to replace it Very Happy

    Can you read ink stamp?  It looks like:

    NVA
    1958
    ????

    The third line is the one we need to determine the date.  But one interesting thing is that this is an Army item.  I figured it might have been MdI, but it obviously isn't.  And looking into the strange overlapping fiber panels it doesn't look like riot protection after all.  

    This is a very strange item, that's for sure!

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    Will try my best to decipher the markings as they are on the 3 individual items.

    Also wonder what the words BESPA mean on the label on the carry bag?

    I will probably at some stage move it on as only bought it out of curiosity but would estimate that it weighs in the region of 35Kgs,maybe more so shipping would be a KILLER.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:58 am

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    Post by spukmeyer on Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:44 am

    Congratulations on this magnificent piece.
    It is in very good condition, have commented ciomo thought it would be the MDI, but surprise is the NVA.
    Dating from 1988, the 1958 is the manufacturer.
    Really curious garment, I hope you do not mind if I include it in a post for the blog I'm doing about strichtarn accessories.
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:23 pm

    Cool... 1988 confirmed! I figured it would be very late in the DDR's existence.

    Gulf91 wrote:Also wonder what the words BESPA mean on the label on the carry bag?
    Yeah, I tried looking for info on that and came up with nothing.

    I will probably at some stage move it on as only bought it out of curiosity but would estimate that it weighs in the region of 35Kgs,maybe more so shipping would be a KILLER.
    It would be horrid from any country, but the UK is amongst the most expensive per KG in my experience. High postage costs is the reason for my modest body armor collection. Covers are one thing, soft inserts another, hard plates even more, but all three? I've only punished my wallet a few times for such things. I'd make an exception for this one as well Very Happy

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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:11 am

    spukmeyer wrote:Congratulations on this magnificent piece.
    It is in very good condition, have commented ciomo thought it would be the MDI, but surprise is the NVA.
    Dating from 1988, the 1958 is the manufacturer.
    Really curious garment, I hope you do not mind if I include it in a post for the blog I'm doing about strichtarn accessories.
    Carlos,by all means feel free to include it in your blog.
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    Post by spukmeyer on Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:13 am

    Thank you very much mate. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:14 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:Cool... 1988 confirmed!  I figured it would be very late in the DDR's existence.

    Gulf91 wrote:Also wonder what the words BESPA mean on the label on the carry bag?
    Yeah, I tried looking for info on that and came up with nothing.

    I will probably at some stage move it on as only bought it out of curiosity but would estimate that it weighs in the region of 35Kgs,maybe more so shipping would be a KILLER.
    It would be horrid from any country, but the UK is amongst the most expensive per KG in my experience.  High postage costs is the reason for my modest body armor collection.  Covers are one thing, soft inserts another, hard plates even more, but all three?  I've only punished my wallet a few times for such things.  I'd make an exception for this one as well Very Happy

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    Same for us here in the UK wanting to buy from the US,some extortionate postage prices and on top of that then get hammered with Import duties,various other charges including a rip off courier handling charge from most companies which is a shame as I used to years back buy a fair bit from the US,no more Im afraid.
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    Post by Gulf91 on Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:15 am

    Having said that,recently used FEDEX using a third party and was quite surprised at their prices,MUCH cheaper than Royal Mail.
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    Post by spukmeyer on Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:57 pm

    Unfortunately in España goes well, the shipping charges are expensive, it costs less to buy a cap in Germany to buy in Spain.
    In USA I have seen very interesting things, but shipping charges have slowed me much.
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    Post by CollectinSteve on Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:53 pm

    The killer comes from things like a shirt or a pair of trousers. Not too bad if you send bigger stuff on a per KG basis. But still, UK prices are way higher than everybody else. For example, to ship a 20kg box to Belgium it's about $145 USD and $175 to the UK. Ouch.

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