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    Post by HEB Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:53 pm

    new backpack. No label, the brown is very reddish. But seems to be in use.

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    Post by bang1266 Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:14 pm

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    That is an Artkis daysack (likely made in UK), they literally make them in every camouflage pattern on earth.
    Here is a video of the DPM version, note the same buckle and same type of webbing strap.
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    Post by HEB Sat May 29, 2021 4:21 pm

    Raptor wrote:Looks good. I believe that Belgian troops are getting some upgrades to their personal kit this year. This must be one of those items.


    here the tarp in combination with the bivy bag from Carinthia


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    Post by HEB Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:15 pm

    NFM cover in Jigsaw, mint

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    Post by HEB Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:19 pm

    The (old) tent. I think its phased out and they get olive ones


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    Post by HEB Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:23 am

    two combat shirts:

    woodland and tropical

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    Post by HEB Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:27 am

    Overall. Does anyone know wheateher this is legit?

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    Post by michelwijnand Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:52 pm

    Latest Belgian bits from last weekends visit to Ciney!

    Moon and Bals camo hood, 2 Desert Jigsaw modular pouches for grenade and 2 pistolmags, Jigsaw legholster.
    With the holster it came to my attention that there are 2 types, this older one, and a newer one that didn't have a magpouch on it.

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    And then this Desert Jigsaw body armor with softarmor fillers.

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    Post by Wolverine Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:05 pm

    How was Ciney?
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    Post by michelwijnand Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:59 pm

    Very nice! It was great to see it was still filled with so many sellers aftr several years of not going because of covid restrictions, found a lot of stuff agan, in addition to the few things above
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    Post by Wolverine Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:01 pm

    I would like to see that show sometime.
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    Post by michelwijnand Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:38 pm

    I can highly recommend it!
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    Post by HEB Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:45 pm

    Finally found the bear vest II in woodland camo.

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    Post by michelwijnand Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:48 pm

    So I finally have something to add to this thread again.
    In some way I skipped straight past any of the NFM stuff and suddenly found a load of Sioen gear, and after that I did get 2 more NFM pouches, so now I have just 2 NFM pouches in normal Jigsaw camo
    and just 2 in Desert Jigsaw camo, so both nowhere near a set, and still no NFM vest at all.

    First a Sioen vest in Coyote Tan, they probably thought there was no need for vests in 2 different colors anymore and just go with 1 in a color that goes with both.

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    And then a load of Sioen pouches, there's also a few in actual Coyote Tan, not sure what's with that, they might be either for an entire Coyote Tan set for whatever unit would use that, or for use with the later
    platecarrier. Fun fact, a few of the pouches here are very similar to Dutch NFP pouches from the earlier pre-VOSS trial series, especially the magpouches (which have removable flaps on the NFP ones) and the
    40mm carry system (which is a seperate pouch in this case and in the Dutch case an insert to go in a utilitypouch, and it also has pulltabs).

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    And lastly the 2 NFM pouches, for some reason they made the dumppouch with an Alice clip instead of modular, and it holds it's rolled state with just a bungee with a tab on it.

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    And onto clothing, I got this Desert UBACS.

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    It's normal Jigsaw version.

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    And one of the new Multicam ones from the project involving Crye, Sioen and Seyntex. The cut is the Crye G4 type but it has no Crye labels, or any manufacturer for that matter, there's just the big white
    Belgian army specific label in there.

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    Post by HEB Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:20 pm

    wow, where did you find the cargo and the drop pouch?
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    Post by michelwijnand Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:09 pm

    All of the pouches except the 40mm one came from 1 seller in Ciney.
    Also, I have some more pieces on the way Smile
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    Post by michelwijnand Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:11 pm

    And the package with the rest of my order has arrived!

    First an NFM Bear Vest II in Desert camo.

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    And a load of pouches again (along with a Russian OMON patch), NFM grenadepouch, NFM triple magpouch, NFM 100rd Minimi magpouch,
    Sioen Desert dumppouch, Sioen pistolmagpouch, and a Sioen triple 40mm pouch again, this time in the regular jigsaw.

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    By the way, I have an extra Jigsaw NFM dumppouch, only the elastic with tab has been removed, if anyone is interested.

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    Post by michelwijnand Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:21 pm

    Oh yeah and another cover as seen in the first post of this thread but then made in the 4-color pattern without the white bits.
    For some reason not in ripstop like the other one.

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    And an MP armlet.

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    And then an M71 canteenpouch in nylon, like the magazinepouches that sometimes appear. I've also seen backpacks in the same material but haven't come across shovelpouches yet.

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    Post by michelwijnand Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:41 pm

    More!

    First a 1995 Seyntex coat/smock, not sure how the Belgians called this one and what units it was meant for as I don't think I've seen them in many photos.

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    Ripstop 4-color pants to go with my UBACS from earlier.

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    Then more modular pouches, NFM Jigsaw radiopouch, 2 NFM Desert magpouches, and a double pouch, most likely meant for pistolmags that I see worn mostly
    on Sioen vests but it has no labels or markings whatsoever and it's details are not consistent with Sioen's other pouches at all.

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    And then 2 custom made Minimi pouches from Morane Tactical.

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    Post by michelwijnand Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:06 pm

    For some reason never added this to this thread, just bought another smock so I remembered this one

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    Post by michelwijnand Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:20 pm

    I thought of it when I bought this set last week.

    The search for pants like this took me so long I just bought a set and didn't even pay attention to the smock with it, thinking I'd just sell 1 of the 2 later,
    never even noticing it's a full length zipper version, sadly it has no labels but I think I remember this being an early-mid 90's type?

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    Post by HEB Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:28 pm

    Finally i got a drop pouch too and two 40mm pouches

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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:02 am

    michelwijnand wrote:I thought of it when I bought this set last week.

    The search for pants like this took me so long I just bought a set and didn't even pay attention to the smock with it, thinking I'd just sell 1 of the 2 later,
    never even noticing it's a full length zipper version, sadly it has no labels but I think I remember this being an early-mid 90's type?

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    These are interesting pieces!

    The smock started out as a standard type used in the early 1970s. I've got a 1973 example in my collection. I do not know if they were made later. The collar is very distinctive, and there are a lot of small details that differ from production run to production run.

    Unfortunately, yours is modified to be full zip instead of the original 1/2 zip construction. This MIGHT have been done while it was in service as the Paras were known for messing around with stuff. In the early 1980s there was a production run with full zip, then it went back to 1/2 zip, and then (I think) to an experimental full zip in 1995 before being abandoned.

    Your trousers are very interesting to me!! This is the first time I have seen a 6 pocket twill cotton trousers. There's a very rare 8 pocket version from the same time, but the only other type I know of is 6 pocket poplin cotton. Please check the lower legs and see if there are any signs of the lower pockets being removed. If not, then you have found something quite rare, I think.

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    Post by michelwijnand Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:54 am

    Good think I did lready have a smock with the half zipper, it's in the previous post above the full zipper one.
    After checking the pants in better light I can actually see some parts where threads seem to have been removed in the correct areas so it must have been an 8-pocket before.

    By the way, the 1995 jacket with 2-snapbutton pockets, do you know if that was a para type or meant for regular infantry?

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