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    RCMP DPM and Jigsaw?

    TennoHeikaNate
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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:04 am

    Matchstick's thread on the trials pattern uniforms sparked a memory and some photos I had saved from a couple of pieces I saw years ago that I was never able to positively identify.
    Over the years I came across a few examples for sale (that I was unable to win) of a unique DPM shirt, trousers, and sleeve patch in DPM that were pretty convincingly tagged
    as belonging to the RCMP/GRC and dated to the 80's/90's, right after the CAF camouflage trials.
    My question is, were these actually utilized by the RCMP and if so, by which units/regions? 1980's-90's dated uniforms seems pretty convincing to me that they were adopted
    at least on a small scale, but I have never once seen a photo of any of them being worn, and I can't find any forums or online posts in which anybody has ever mentioned their
    wear or usage or shown any in private collections.



    The first jacket, tagged "Jacket, Combat, Summer Camouflage" although the hanging loop blocks the upper part of the nomenclature tag, features an RCMP
    stock number and manufacture date of March 1986. It has four pockets, the lower two rotated to the hips to facilitate easier access while mounted.
    I did see a matching pair of trousers, though I forgot to save the photos of it and I can't remember the date on the tag. I am almost certain though that they also
    had two hip cargo pockets similar to the old Israeli or JSDF uniform trousers in place of regular slash hand pockets that would seem more ideal for accessing while mounted.

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    A DPM sleeve patch apparently for the above jacket.
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    And the other jacket and pattern (you may recognize this seller's pics).
    This one is an a sort of woodland jigsaw-type pattern, and seems nearly identical in cut to the DPM version although the lower hem pockets
    are in a more typical position and not rotated to the hips like the DPM jackets'.
    The tag on this one calls it an "RCMP Combat Jacket, Summer Camouflage" with a manufacture date of July 1992, and a nearly identical RCMP stock number
    albeit short one 0.

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    Regards,
    -Nate

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    TennoHeikaNate
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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:53 pm

    Finally! Browsing S21K's page on FB, I came across one of his albums featuring RCMP ERT members in the late 90's wearing the "jigsaw" combat jackets over the DPM shirt and trousers.
    Makes me curious if there never were trousers to the jigsaw jacket?
    Reverse searching yielded no sources unfortunately, but special thanks to him for finding these!


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    Post by Camonut314 Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:06 pm

    Excellent finds! I just stumbled upon S21K myself, and I'm chuffed that he posted these and that you brought them here!

    I could be wrong, but it does look to me like some of the pictures further to the bottom show the ERT members wearing matching jigsaw trousers?

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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:12 pm

    Derp! Sure enough, your sharper eye caught something I easily passed up!
    I've only seen a couple of those jigsaw combat jackets for sale, never the trousers, but I have seen a couple of sets and a few odd pieces of the DPM for sale.
    Hopefully some more pops up in the near future that someone on the forum can get so we can take more detailed looks, and hopefully some more photographs turn up as well!
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    Post by Wolverine Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:42 am

    Damn, I had no idea that the RCMP used this stuff.
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:47 pm

    First for me too! Official tags and everything. Nice looking Jigsaw variant for sure!

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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:23 pm

    Found one!
    Dated May 1993 from Sportive Mfg. Inc. in Ottawa.


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    Interior left chest velcro pocket with stitching that shows through the front like the Army's coats.
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    The hem pockets are very wide and wrap all the way to the hips over the side seams of the jacket.
    The lower pockets also have V pleated bellows, and a center button with a unique "batwing" stitch under the pocket flap to help access the button, and interior fold-over fabric to help hold the contents in.
    The elbow reinforcements also wrap all the way around the sleeve.

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    Post by Camonut314 Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:14 pm

    Fantastic!

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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:10 am

    Another, sadly smaller pic of the jigsaw/puzzle:
    "May 27, 1999 Rossburn, MB: An ERT member keeps an eye on a farmhouse during exercises just north of Rossburn."

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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:43 am

    Arrived recently, an original pair of the DPM trousers!
    Made of the same material as the Parachute Smocks, this pair are tagged as "Summer Camouflage Trousers, ERT" made by the Service Uniform Co. LTD. in September 1982, the earliest date I've seen for this pattern.


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    Same seller had another pair that I did not win, but here's the tag, they were otherwise identical:
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    Omega Militaria contacted me on IG and we discussed the few findings we were able to make on these ERT patterns, he also found a matching 1982 set (which is listed on his website that I can share the link to for anyone interested).
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    And finally, I found another jigsaw jacket listed that was made by Artex, same maker as the garrison camouflage jackets.
    I'll post the photos here for reference and again I can send the link to the jacket for anyone interested in it

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    Post by Camonut314 Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:59 pm

    Hot damn, those are some amazing finds!

    Interesting to see the double-cuffs for the trousers; at that time period, about the only other uniform I can think of that implemented that system was the Soviet second-pattern Mabuta.

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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:13 pm

    Thanks camonut! They are actually heavily cut after the standard Mk. II Lightweight Combat Trousers that were standard issue to the CF at the time which also had the extra "tuck-in" fabric, the major differences of the ERT trousers being:
    Smaller, non-slotted buttons
    Covered buttons on pocket flaps
    Smaller belt loops and no suspender buttons or waist adjuster tabs
    No knee/seat reinforcements
    and only one rear pocket
    I don't have any Mk. II trousers at the moment, but here's my pair of 1989 Mk. III's that are basically identical to the II's as far as I can tell:

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    Post by TennoHeikaNate Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:15 am

    Three more photos from the same exercise as the last pic, one a slightly different angle of the man with the M16 wearing the jigsaw uniform, and a couple showing some members on a shooting range wearing what would appear to be the matching jigsaw pattern ball cap to the uniform.
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