michelwijnand wrote:Thanks! I got really lucky that a guy put the hat, jacket and pants online at the same time and I was just doing a search at the right moment, got them for way less than I expected them to cost too!
And yes it's weird about the label, both the ASD and LHBW numbers are correct and matching both eachother and the NSN, eventhough both acronyms are missing, but I just checked a number of other things and my Wahler made 2010's
Interesting. I saw some labels from current stuff and some don't have LHBW, but they also have an extra digit in their numbers I'm wondering if the system has changed?
IDZ Kampfjacke Lang and Kurz don't have the LHBW on them either, just the numbers, while the matching Scharrer made pants do have it.
What are the dates for the items? I just looked through a bunch of the earliest examples (2012) and they all have LHBW, but the 2013-2014 stuff I looked at had ASD or TKZ markings. I even found some underwear packaging with a label that showed both ASD and TKZ! The Blücher fleece jacket has both on the label. And yet there's stuff from 2016 with LHBW. Very confusing!
Apparently there's now more acronyms too, as my most modern stuff doesn't have LHBW on the label but BWBM or TKZ instead, no idea what those mean yet.
Here's what I just found in one pile of newer stuff:
2017 - LHBW and ASD numbers where they should be, but without the acronyms. The LHBW looking number has 7 digits instead of the normal 6. Made by Wattana
2018 - TKZ and ASD
2020 and 2021 - BwBM and ASD
I'll ask around and see if I can get some info on this topic. It seems things have changed a couple of times!
But now with this jacket seeming very correct issue I'm still wondering if the Leo Kohler combatshirts I see being worn in a number of photos are actually commercial or issue, eventhough they seem
to be their regular weird type with just a camo shoulders and arms part sewn over some actual issue khaki t-shirt.
I have a used one of those! You are correct about it being a "Frankenstein" item. Looks like a standard issue T-shirt with camo sewn onto it, but with a strange double layer. Coincidentally, tomorrow I have to clean up the room (for non-collecting reasons) where I think my shirt is in. I'll look for it.
From what I remember mine came with used Köhler (commercial) trousers and commercial jacket (forget who made it). It was from a police contractor, I think.