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    Post by AENEAS Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:01 pm

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    Post by AENEAS Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:58 pm

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    Post by Soviet_Kazimir Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:05 am

    Great to see you on here JP. I am always in awe with that 1st pattern winter jacket.... Amazing! AENEAS epic score on that 1st pattern jacket. Bravo!
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    Post by shoru Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:40 pm

    My small collection of KGB PV items

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    Post by Soviet_Kazimir Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:07 pm

    When did you get the first pattern set? What size is it?
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    Post by shoru Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:30 am

    I got it some weeks ago. I can't find any stamps, but it fits like a 50-4.
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    Post by Soviet_Kazimir Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:48 am

    Great set anyway you're very lucky.

    This is what the marking stamp looks like in them:
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    Likely yours got ripped out...

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    Post by vicka1971 Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:04 pm

    Hey Kazimir,

    On your last photo. On label it said: made at town ANDIZAN( Uzbekistan)date1994
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    Post by Soviet_Kazimir Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:58 am

    its 1984 the ink is faded and hard to see from that picture angle.
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    Post by koalorka Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:55 pm

    Interesting photo of PV KGB forces in the late 1980s in Afghanistan, wearing the two-piece KLM suits, which were designed specifically for them from what I understand.

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    Post by shoru Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:12 pm

    Aren't these one-piece KLMKs?
    I'm not sure about the far right one, but most of the others are looking like regular KLMKs.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Post by CollectinSteve Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:50 pm

    I don't think it is really possible to tell if these are 1 piece or 2 piece uniforms. Even the 1 piece has a distinct belt line, which could look the same as a two piece with the shirt tucked into the trousers. Add to this belts, equipment, grainy photo quality, etc... it's really hard to say for sure. We could be looking at only 1 piece uniforms, only 2 piece uniforms, or a mix of both.

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    Post by shoru Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:57 pm

    As far as I remember (I don't have any of my gear here in Ireland) the KLMKs are more baggy, especially in the leg area. As all of these except for the third from the left and the far right one are looking quite baggy I assume they are one-piece suits and not the two-piece version.

    Anyway, Steve is right, the quality of this picture isn't too good, so there is no real evidence to tell the differences.
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    Post by koalorka Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:48 pm

    It is a little ambiguous, keep in mind the two-piece uniform has a small pocket on the left shoulder. I can see at least one. I will try to dig up a few more photos.
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    Post by shoru Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:31 pm

    Are you referring to the far left person?
    After all this might be a mixture of both types, I'd highly appreciate more pictures.
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    Post by koalorka Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:02 pm

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    Post by fourtycoats Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:45 am

    I thought I would share this suit with you. It was made in the UK 20 years ago in the British style of SAS smock and pants. Lovely quality and a nice pattern.

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    Post by shoru Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:21 pm

    20 years ago? Are you sure? The pattern looks quite recent.
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    Post by fourtycoats Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:33 pm

    Yes, I am sure. It was made at the end of the 80's.
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    Post by koalorka Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:41 am

    That's a curious uniform.

    By whom and for whom was it made?
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    Post by fourtycoats Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:03 am

    It was made for me by SASS in Lancaster, UK. They had the cloth which they used to make a simple over the head Russian style suit. I asked them to make this suit in their usual British smock style,
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    Post by Martin Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:09 am

    Do you think this is a tank/AFV uniform or Flight suit?

    I'm leaning towards flight suit since there are some similat TTsKO Flight suit pieces on ebay...

    Or are they just standard winter trousers?

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    Post by koalorka Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:25 am

    Martin, that's a first generation winter variant for the frontier guards. Issued since 1979 I believe. In the late 80s (1987 onward, IMO), the uniforms were standardized with the more common all-arms  M1982 "Afghanka" tailoring.
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    Post by koalorka Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:39 am

    Sharing my 2nd pattern sets. These were circulated in 1987, which is rather late as the Aghanka was standardized in 1982, but I have yet to see a set dated before 1987. Theory is that this happened so late because of budget and the frontier guards were re-equipped relatively recently.

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