TTA47 "toutes armes" or "modèle général", "modèle allégé"

TTA47 "toutes armes" or "modèle général", "modèle allégé"

47 is the year of introducing
"modèle général" jacket 4 pockets
The "modèle allégé" is a modification of the TTA47 but I have not find information for the introducing of the model
The pant is identical for the 2 models
I don't know why many people put another number after the year of TTA47
For the TAP47, it the year of modification ( see my website)
TTA47 was used until beginning of the year 80, the product of the "modèle allégé" was stopped after the Algérian war
After Algerian war, only used in Africa by French troop because the camouflage was prohibited in France
For the garment build after Algerian war, they have a stamp on the top of the shoulder

"modèle général"






"modèle allégé"





the pant





stamp of the product after Algérian war



A "modèle général" jacket modify, typical of practice of the French troop in Africa









All of these garments are in F2 pattern
On my website you have any "modèle allégé" in various pattern
http://vonstuckcamouflage.free.fr/france.php

Ah, finally solved the mystery surrounding this uniform!

Is the model "allégé" an original cut or is it a modified TTA47?

I received a late-model shirt last week and it came with shoulder ranks, but it doesn't seem correct to where such a disruptive item on a camouflage field uniform. Where the black epaulets really worn on these?

"modèle général" jacket 4 pockets
"modèle allégé" jacket 2 pockets

For the garment build after Algerian war, they have a stamp on the top of the left shoulder, only the left

Very cool sets,and great informative post ...thanks for sharing!!!

Certainly Chad

C1 pattern

That C1 pattern is stunning, how do I find a set? I've been looking for over a year.

From what period/war does this originate?

Very beautiful set.
I was in paris in 06 and found one of this jacket at a local flea market. It was more like a store within the flea market, he was specialized in the indochina stuff and amongst a lot of cool stuff there was a jacket in same pattern, price? 1250 euros, obvioulsy i didn't buy it. Is probably still there.

Hello
The C1 pattern is typically Indochina war period
A set as this in new condition is no limit on ebay France
Danilo, I think that you have see at 1250 euros, is a TAP52 jacket, not a "modèle allégé" as this
Gilles

vonstuck wrote:
A set as this in new condition is no limit on ebay France

You mean to say the price is astronomical? More than the TAP 52 in the same C1 pattern?

Between 800 1000 euros the set
Difficult to say, but French collectors are crazy on Indochina war period items
Gilles

Crazy is right! There go my chances of ever owning one. Unless I meet a veteran and swindle him out of his uniform..

I have seen these uniforms referred to as TTA 47/52 in many French sources. Could the "52" designation refer to the year of the "modèle allégé" modification to the original service uniform?

koalorka wrote:I have seen these uniforms referred to as TTA 47/52 in many French sources. Could the "52" designation refer to the year of the "modèle allégé" modification to the original service uniform?

Hello
Read the beginning of the tread
Gilles

Gilles can provide much more specific information, but roughly speaking there are two groups of French Lizard pattern uniforms; TTA and TAP. The TAP designations usually have a slash and a year after. TAP 47/52 is the 1952 variant. Within that there are different camouflage variations which Gilles has documented in another thread.

Steve

And my website: http://vonstuckcamouflage.free.fr/france.php
I don't know why, but during 3 days it has not work
Gilles

The TAP 47/52 is also being reproduced in a pretty good quality. I had an original set I bought in the mid 80s of TRAP 47/52 mint unissued. This was in my indochina collecting period. Got it fairly reasonable and can't for the life of me remember ever selling it, but don't have it now.
Value has skyrocketed in this in recent years, so another goof on my part along with selling all the ww2 Denison smocks I had bought prior to a bridge too far movie!

Chris

Chris is correct. Be very leery of excellent condition TAP 47/52. The reproductions are very good and difficult to tell from eBay pictures.

Steve

The pattern B1 B2 and C1 was produced for Indochina so you can says, pecialized jungle pattern
The B1 for a very short time because soldiers don't like the colors
Gilles

vonstuck wrote:The pattern B1 B2 and C1 was produced for Indochina so you can says, pecialized jungle pattern
The B1 for a very short time because soldiers don't like the colors
Gilles

and D "tropical"

A good indication of time period for these TTA uniforms is the size tag format. Between 1945-1963 sizes were coded with only two digits, later they moved to the three digit system presently in use.

That C1 is stunning , if anyone ever has one to sell please let me know .

owen

Chad, beginning of the 80's

D2 pattern

Very nice indeed !!!!
and hard to find these days.

owen