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    Post by mylle Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:34 pm

    Finally, I got a pair of unissued pants, 2022 made by FECSA.
    Basically they share the same features as the 2nd version desert digi pants.

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    Post by CollectinSteve Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:26 am

    Lucky bugger Smile

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    Post by Philip Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:14 pm

    Very nice!


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    Post by jimmyduncan23 Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:59 pm

    nice set, especially jealous of those desert ones.
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    Post by mylle Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:04 pm

    Another rainjacket made in 2021 also by FECSA.

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    The right one is a bit more faded, seems like the biggest part of the new uniform clothing was and is made in spain.
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    Post by Philip Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:52 pm

    Unbelievable... seems like you have already more than me! Laughing


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    Post by mylle Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:53 pm

    Haha no worries, there are still items left from the new uniform you have and I still miss. Wink
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    Post by Haydamaka Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:09 pm

    Hello Alex!
    Just received these pants here in Ukraine.
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    I checked out the pics in this topic and I guess this is KAZ 69 pants, is that true?
    Unfortunarely, I can't se the last number of the manufacturing year, 197?...

    Until what year (approximately) had these pants been manufactured? 1978?

    Thank you in advance for your comments and any applicable interesting information!
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    Post by mylle Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:36 pm

    Yes these are KAZ69 trousers. They made the stuff until some
    years after they introduced the KAZ75 uniform. I dont know exactly when they stopped. But I have some camo stuff that was still  made in 1977. It could be possible yours have been made in 1973.

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    Post by CollectinSteve Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:03 pm

    Except for the small tear on the leg pocket, that is a very nice condition KAZ69 trousers.

    Alex, 1977 production date? Interesting! I thought the last production date was 1976. I will update my notes Wink

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    Post by Haydamaka Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:33 am

    mylle wrote:Yes these are KAZ69 trousers. They made the stuff until some
    years after they introduced the KAZ75 uniform. I dont know exactly when they stopped. But I have some camo stuff that was still  made in 1977. It could be possible yours have been made in 1973.

    Thank you very much, Alex, for excellent answer, as usually! Very Happy

    I wondered if these pants were made in 1973 or 1978, but the year 1973 seems more correct.
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    Post by Haydamaka Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:03 am

    CollectinSteve wrote:Except for the small tear on the leg pocket, that is a very nice condition KAZ69 trousers.

    Thank you, Steve!

    This is my first piece of Erbentarn-Punktmuster staff in my collection.
    Except of small tear (repaired) on the cargo pocket, it misses one ribbon on the ankle and one button, but these are minor defects.
    This camou seems excellent for autumn conditions.

    I just wonder of the slash pocket construction: it has 2 pockets and a through-hole for access... to  the other trousers underneath?
    Are these pants intended for wearing over some other pants?


    On a local forum I missed an interesting set with such overpants (no slash pockets, through-holes only), so sad... Sad
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    Post by mylle Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:14 am

    Yeah usually the first pants where designed to be worn over standard uniform M56 pants, but that was not usefull during summer. Also the had some quillted
    thermo liners for the camo uniform. Thats why you have the option to grip through.
    The KAZ59 pants with the string to tie up are the the last version of the tanker trousers. They have also zippers on the cargo pocket.

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    Post by mylle Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm

    Of course again, I couldn't resist. IMHO, black boots don't look quite as good as tan ones with this uniform. And again, haircut is out of milspec Laughing :

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    Without perfect light, it looks darker:

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    Darker:
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    Post by ripcord Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:53 pm

    Brown boots for sure ... Cool
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    Post by CollectinSteve Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:32 pm

    Yup, definitely the brown boots. Black boots at least look better than stilettos Smile

    Nice pics of everything in place. Thanks for that.

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    Post by Haydamaka Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:34 pm

    Hi, Alex!
    I agree - brown boots look better!

    Alex, do you know such manufacturer as  STEINADLER? I know only STEINKOGLER boots manufacturer... Very Happy

    On the pics the so-called "Alpine Fleece Jacket G3" is shown.

    I suppose this is a commercial manufacturer, not Bundesheer contractor.
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    What do you think about this fleece jacket?
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    Post by mylle Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:03 pm

    Yeah its a commercial variant of the offical issued alpine-fleecejacket. The origins of this type of issued fleecejacket started in a commercial variant which
    could be bought by soldiers on their own. It was a very popular private purchased item so the army issued an own variant for general issue in two variants- standard fleece and the more windproof
    alpine variant

    The shop makes some own improved KAZ03 stuff for example a lightweight KAZ03 standard uniform a KAZ03 heavy jacket variant with insulated liner they even copied the old KAZ75 boots. AFAIK they dont supply the austrian army on a contract basis but there are for sure  some soldiers that buy this stuff privately.

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    Post by Haydamaka Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:12 pm

    mylle wrote:Yeah its a commercial variant of the offical issued alpine-fleecejacket.
    The shop makes some own improved KAZ03 stuff for example a lightweight KAZ03 standard uniform a KAZ03 heavy jacket variant with insulated liner they even copied the old KAZ75 boots. AFAIK they dont supply the austrian army on a contract basis but there are for sure  some soldiers that buy this stuff privately.

    Thank you!

    The situation is similar to Swiss commercial company A-shop, which makes something similar to the Swiss army contracted fleece jackets.

    This was discussed withing the forum topic:
    Schweizer Armee TAZ90 Instruktor-Jacke

    The following pictures are from on-line shop, where this jacket was proposed as an orinigal contracted one.
    Actually this is fake copy, that is seen by some details.
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    Post by mylle Sat May 13, 2023 3:56 pm

    Summer shirt in the new camo, it shows a quite amount of fading:

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    Post by Haydamaka Sat May 13, 2023 5:43 pm

    mylle wrote:Yeah usually the first pants where designed to be worn over standard uniform M56 pants, but that was not usefull during summer. Also the had some quillted
    thermo liners for the camo uniform. Thats why you have the option to grip through.
    The KAZ59 pants with the string to tie up are the the last version of the tanker trousers. They have also zippers on the cargo pocket.

    Thanks, Alex!

    Unfortunately, I failed to find anything about the Austrian M56 uniform.

    How does it look like?
    Do you have any pieces of it in your collection?

    Many thanks in advance for any additional information!
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    Post by mylle Sat May 13, 2023 5:54 pm

    Here is a pic of the uniform in the field:

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    Not very practical at all. I dont have it in my collection. Its a too formal service uniform for my focus.

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    Post by Haydamaka Sat May 13, 2023 6:02 pm

    mylle wrote: Not very practical at all. I dont have it in my collection. Its a too formal service uniform for my focus.

    Thank you very much!

    I agree - this uniform is not a camouflage one and is too formal, actually it's just an update of the war-time service uniform...

    And I understand now why it's not so much information about it in the Internet - it's not an interesting field for most collectioners,
    especially if to compare with more recent Erbentarn camouflage uniform. Very Happy
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    Post by mylle Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:06 pm

    New austrian camo winterjacket, compared with the older KAZ03 heavy jacket, this
    one hase some new features: Hood in the collar, velcro on the cuffs and a fixed inner liner.

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    Post by mylle Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:01 pm

    Just for comparison- new blouse on the left, faded one on the right.
    If you have mint items from this uniform- just dont wash em.

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