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    Post by Reiska Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:19 pm

    This pattern was developed by the French firm Texunion, which was later used as the basis for German flecktarn. The French Army rejected it. This example is dated 1976.

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    Post by mylle Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:23 pm

    WOW!Nice piece!Never saw one before.
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    Post by Camo_fiend Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:07 pm

    Very cool... Never knew such a thing existed. Thanks for sharing this.


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    Post by CollectinSteve Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:55 am

    One of the rarest pieces of camo out there. You did really, really well to find that one. And mint with hood? Huge bonus!

    I didn't know it was printed on HBT cloth. Cool.

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    Post by Sanglier Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:15 pm

    After posting the Texunion drawing on the WW II sub-forum in that questionable smock thread, I might as well do the same here. Reviving this 10 year old thread with my nearly 10 year old collage, including a comparative look at the color-ways, of which there were at least three:

    (A) a brown-dominant version seen in that well-known photo, (B) a green-dominant version (the very nice coat that started this thread is of this type, as is the enigmatic smock, though the colors on the coat are not as brightly saturated as those on the smock), and (C) the "sparse" version.

    With select elements circled out, it should be easy to see how the colors are swapped to achieve these variations - a practice again carried over from the German antecedents.

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    Post by Reiska Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:16 pm

    The links to the photos seem to be broken, so I'm reposting them.

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    Post by Doc_KeystoneDiv Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:56 pm

    Wow that's SUPER cool! Thanks for reposting the pics. I missed out on that smock, my vessel was in an area with no reception and im super bummed out about it. I'll definitely have to be on the lookout for another example of this very cool camo pattern
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    Post by Sanglier Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:12 am

    Just to close the loop, here is a comparison of three different French HBT weaves seen on various garments. It's quite clear that the smock HBT (lower left) is identical to the one used to make OP's jacket (thus my assumption that the fabric is genuine surplus). The difference in color brightness between the two may or may not be deliberate, given the experimental nature of the pattern.

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    Post by Sanglier Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:45 pm

    While I have the smock and other jackets out, I thought I'd hang them in the woods to see how the patterns compare when lit from different directions. The "control" is a home-made pattern derived from colors seen year-round here in NorCal, chiefly oak, coyote brush, oleander, and dried out vegetation. What is immediately obvious is that the reddish brown color in the French patterns doesn't really exist in nature here, other than on the bark of Manzanita trees. Still, the Texunion pattern worked better than I anticipated, given its very foreign color palette for this environment. It's a shame the French chose not to develop it further.

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    Post by Doc_KeystoneDiv Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:59 pm

    Dang, im not even more bummed i missed out on the smock. I'm very impressed with its effectiveness. If anyone has something in this pattern they'd like to sell, please let me know, very cool stuff
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    Post by FobanX Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:51 am

    My own collection.

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