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    Post by ripcord Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:56 pm

    Picked this one up recently.  Looks European made.  

    Can anyone ID ?




                                                                                                   



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    Post by CollectinSteve Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:15 pm

    Ah, this one Wink It is the same pattern as Yugo and Cuban lizard camo printings. We had a big discussion about this one a few years ago because a number of them showed up in Thailand. The cut is identical to Cuban, bit it isn't Cuban production. One theory is Yugoslavia, which was friendly to Cuba, produced a bunch. It could also be they were South Korean, though I don't think ROK would have allowed production to go to Cuba.

    That's from memory. Maybe we did finally arrive at some definitive conclusion? In any case, I had about a half dozen of these and they were all used. I also landed a set of trousers to match.

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    Post by vonstuck Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:52 am

    Hello
    The camouflage pattern seem as Serbian or Cuban lizard pattern, but it is not
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    Post by michelwijnand Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:34 am

    Interesting tag, similar logo to this Dutch company, which is also active in many countries around the globe

    https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%26A
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    Post by ripcord Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:06 pm

    Thank you all for your input.





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    Post by CollectinSteve Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:06 pm

    I didn't see all the pictures when I first checked. OK, that's definitely not the same uniform as I was talking about. However, it could be related.


    I tried to find the thread I was thinking of, but could not locate it. We had a fairly lengthy discussion about this type of uniform with comparison photos many years ago. From what I remember we concluded it was neither Cuban nor Yugoslav/Serb. My notes indicates that we felt it was most likely South Korean contract for Angola in the 1990s. It could be that the Dutch, and others made this uniform for Angola and then, as often happened, subsequent runs in the 1990s went to cheaper contractors in countries like South Korea.

    Here are some pictures from the thread I mentioned:

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    Post by vonstuck Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:39 am

    https://iacmc.forumotion.com/t3829-cuban-lizard

    I forgot the Angola pattern, very similar!
    Steve, your 3 pictures show Russian and Cuban soldiers, and they wear good Cuban pattern
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    Post by CollectinSteve Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:42 am

    That's the thread! Great work, Gilles Smile Thanks for the clarification on the pictures. I will move them to my Cuba folder instead of Angola.

    So, we still are not sure what the uniform without the labels is? Angloa seems to be a good guess because of the connection to Cuba, which the uniform is obviously patterned after.

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