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    Need some educating on Pattern 1951 webbing

    NorthOf49
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    Post by NorthOf49 Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:09 pm

    I have a number of totes in my basement now as I help a friend deal with his brother's estate, which included items of web and other surplus gear from a few different countries (I'll be posting questions on a couple of other sub-forums here about some other stuff).

    The Canadian P37 gear that is in the totes I'm familiar with, less so the Pattern 1951. Mr. Summers "Tangled Web" has been very helpful but I'm hoping to draw upon those more knowledgeable here. Here are some photos of the kit laid out in two batches. Pardon the oblique angle on a couple of them, but it was either that or a bunch of it hidden in my shadow.

    Is this indeed all P51 gear, as best you can tell? I'm mostly wondering about the entrenching tool and the canteen, as the former is not illustrated outside the case in the Summers book, and the canteen, though it and the billy are U.S. manufactured, has a Canadian soldier's regimental number on it. I can provide additional info and photos if that would help. Thanks for any information.

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    Post by Wolverine Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:20 am

    All of the web is standard WE 51 pattern. The e-tool appears to be a typical US M1943 model, and not the scarce Canadian 51 pattern - is there a marking on the spade?

    It is pretty common to find plastic canteens with Canadian service numbers, as the original 51 pattern aluminum canteen was only in production for 3 or 4 years before the Canadian Army introduced the plastic canteen. In my experience, there is about an equal chance of finding a US-made or Cdn-made plastic canteen in WE 51 or WE 64 sets. If you show the canteen cup, it is possible to identify US or Cdn manufacture.
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    Post by NorthOf49 Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:02 pm

    Thanks very much, Wolverine. The metal canteen cup is, indeed, also US manufacture.

    There is a marking on the spade, but it is hidden/illegible behind the paint. There's some stuff that may, or may not, be additional WE51 in other boxes, so will do a bit more digging.
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    Post by Wolverine Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:06 am

    Probably it is a US-marked e-tool, likely dated 1944 or 1945.

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