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39 posters
My unknowns
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°1
My unknowns
My most incredible unknown camo
misanthropic_gods- MODERATOR
- Location : Illinois, USA
Registration date : 2009-07-27
Number of posts : 991
- Post n°2
Re: My unknowns
Wow....thats a trippy one...Hippyflage?
I kid, I kid
I kid, I kid
Easy Gee- Colonel
- Name : Gary
Age : 55
Location : UK
Registration date : 2010-06-12
Number of posts : 3591
- Post n°3
Re: My unknowns
I think my Mum used to have a set of curtains like this is the early 70's....Nah ,only kidding Mate ....That is one cool looking jacket....I hope someone out there knows,where it's from.....my guess of African origin
misanthropic_gods- MODERATOR
- Location : Illinois, USA
Registration date : 2009-07-27
Number of posts : 991
- Post n°4
Re: My unknowns
Easy Gee wrote:
I hope someone out there knows,where it's from.....my guess of African origin
Yeah...thats my guess as well. Somewhere in Africa..they always have the weirdest camo patterns
Easy Gee- Colonel
- Name : Gary
Age : 55
Location : UK
Registration date : 2010-06-12
Number of posts : 3591
- Post n°5
Re: My unknowns
Yeah mate,It's just got to be African....no one else would have a wild pattern like this one.....( this is where someone else will now post some thing like " No this is a very rare Swiss pattern, they only made 100 of them. " and I'll be like swallowing a lot a Humble pie)
DS9ACU- Officer Candidate
- Location : USA
Registration date : 2009-07-15
Number of posts : 530
- Post n°6
Re: My unknowns
by the stamps it looks Russian or Eastern Bloc, but the pattern says otherwise.
CollectinSteve- ADMIN
- Location : New England, US
Registration date : 2009-03-08
Number of posts : 6987
- Post n°7
Re: My unknowns
That is so hideous that it is beautiful! Really nice one Gilles!
Whatever it is, the ink stamps make me think this is a definite government issue item of some sort. But I don't know what!
Two things strike me about this:
1. The cut is very unusual, but it does have several common French features (inside top pockets, external lower pockets, button tab cuffs, drawstring waist...)
2. The ink stamps remind me of French stamps. The size is "48"?
Obviously I am not suggesting any French military wore this. What I am suggesting is that perhaps a French clothing maker produced this item. And if it did, then I also agree it probably went to Africa.
Wild stuff!!
Steve
Whatever it is, the ink stamps make me think this is a definite government issue item of some sort. But I don't know what!
Two things strike me about this:
1. The cut is very unusual, but it does have several common French features (inside top pockets, external lower pockets, button tab cuffs, drawstring waist...)
2. The ink stamps remind me of French stamps. The size is "48"?
Obviously I am not suggesting any French military wore this. What I am suggesting is that perhaps a French clothing maker produced this item. And if it did, then I also agree it probably went to Africa.
Wild stuff!!
Steve
filupe- MODERATOR
- Location : Oz
Registration date : 2009-02-16
Number of posts : 1088
- Post n°8
Re: My unknowns
I agree with Steve - the cut very strongly suggests the Mle 1947 'toutes armes' (general issue) blouse and one of the stamps looks very much to say 'Armee', which can also be found on french issue garments.
I am just wondering whether French camouflage development at the time was not merely left to private textile companies but rather under direct military control.
An interesting pattern nonetheless ...
I am just wondering whether French camouflage development at the time was not merely left to private textile companies but rather under direct military control.
An interesting pattern nonetheless ...
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°9
Re: My unknowns
I have bought the 2 shirts at the same guy who say it is from Africa
The second shirt is a Chinese pattern
it's a jacket that was disassembled and remanufactured to look like the other
Crazy!
Gilles
Easy Gee- Colonel
- Name : Gary
Age : 55
Location : UK
Registration date : 2010-06-12
Number of posts : 3591
- Post n°10
Re: My unknowns
vonstuck wrote:
I have bought the 2 shirts at the same guy who say it is from Africa
The second shirt is a Chinese pattern
it's a jacket that was disassembled and remanufactured to look like the other
Crazy!
Gilles
Hi Giles.
Maybe the top DPM style shirt is from Tanzania,I seen one like this before, but a lot more washed out in colour???
Just a Guess, and if it isn't, it looks very similar from memory
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°11
Re: My unknowns
Hello
The DPM shirt is in mint condition
It is the good colors on the picture, and yes, they are unusual!
The fabric is heavy coton
Gilles
The DPM shirt is in mint condition
It is the good colors on the picture, and yes, they are unusual!
The fabric is heavy coton
Gilles
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°12
Re: My unknowns
It is not the Saudi Arabia pattern
Saudi Arabia cap
Saudi Arabia cap
AK101- Sergeant
- Location : USA
Registration date : 2009-07-04
Number of posts : 200
- Post n°13
Re: My unknowns
No idea what it is, but that first jacket looks amazing.
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°14
Re: My unknowns
US WWII parachute material
The parachute material have receive wax or oil for give the garment waterproof
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°15
Re: My unknowns
I have bought this jacket with this bag and a DPM 5 colors Kuwaiti pant
The lot was bring back by a French soldier from Kuwait in 1991
The jacket is resized and it is identical as this: http://www.sacamo.co.za/South%20Africa%20za050.htm
I don't know if it is a Kuwaiti jacket or Iraqi or another
Gilles
mcoleman762- Junior Sergeant
- Name : Mike
Location : Downeast Maine
Registration date : 2009-02-18
Number of posts : 172
- Post n°16
Re: My unknowns
Hello Gilles,
That DPM jacket is in fact a South African Recce issue piece. I have a couple of these myself. They were manufactured by ARMSCOR for use by the Recces on external ops. It's generally classified as one of the "copy" patterns, but I have yet to encounter anyone who can figure out exactly what this pattern is a copy of. The general consensus is that it was a generic DPM pattern, since DPM is so prevalent in Africa. I see your example has been shortened, and had elastic sewn into the back hem.
How on Earth it ended up in Kuwait, I have no idea.
Cheers,
Mike
That DPM jacket is in fact a South African Recce issue piece. I have a couple of these myself. They were manufactured by ARMSCOR for use by the Recces on external ops. It's generally classified as one of the "copy" patterns, but I have yet to encounter anyone who can figure out exactly what this pattern is a copy of. The general consensus is that it was a generic DPM pattern, since DPM is so prevalent in Africa. I see your example has been shortened, and had elastic sewn into the back hem.
How on Earth it ended up in Kuwait, I have no idea.
Cheers,
Mike
nkomo- ADMIN
- Name : Arch
Location : Kentucky, USA
Registration date : 2009-02-13
Number of posts : 3323
- Post n°17
Re: My unknowns
The tan duffle bag is an Iraqi Armed Forces piece. Saw a lot of these come back from Desert Storm. The marking is for "Jaish" which stands for or means Army.
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Always looking for Central American militaria 1965 to 1991. Especially items relating to Coronel Velasquez El Salvador Armed Forces
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°18
Re: My unknowns
mcoleman762 wrote:Hello Gilles,
That DPM jacket is in fact a South African Recce issue piece. I have a couple of these myself. They were manufactured by ARMSCOR for use by the Recces on external ops. It's generally classified as one of the "copy" patterns, but I have yet to encounter anyone who can figure out exactly what this pattern is a copy of. The general consensus is that it was a generic DPM pattern, since DPM is so prevalent in Africa. I see your example has been shortened, and had elastic sewn into the back hem.
How on Earth it ended up in Kuwait, I have no idea.
Cheers,
Mike
I am happy to have another South African Recce jacket
Gilles
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°19
Re: My unknowns
I think it is only commercial
Gilles
Gilles
CollectinSteve- ADMIN
- Location : New England, US
Registration date : 2009-03-08
Number of posts : 6987
- Post n°20
Re: My unknowns
I had a commercial portuguese "hunting" jacket that had similar looking cloth and colors. But I do not have it any more so I can not do a direct comparison.
Steve
Steve
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°21
Re: My unknowns
Easy Gee- Colonel
- Name : Gary
Age : 55
Location : UK
Registration date : 2010-06-12
Number of posts : 3591
- Post n°22
Re: My unknowns
vonstuck wrote:
US WWII parachute material
The parachute material have receive wax or oil for give the garment waterproof
I realy like these a lot,fanatastic use of chute material,I have some M1 helmet covers in this material,which I think is cool...but these are suberb
Easy Gee- Colonel
- Name : Gary
Age : 55
Location : UK
Registration date : 2010-06-12
Number of posts : 3591
- Post n°23
Re: My unknowns
vonstuck wrote:
Mitchell is one of my fave US pattterns...I am most envious of this one...love it... I am very keen to find out more about this one,as I'm sure you are...VERY cool giles
vonstuck- Colonel
- Location : FRANCE
Registration date : 2010-03-30
Number of posts : 3444
- Post n°24
Re: My unknowns
It is not Italian pattern
Gilles
CollectinSteve- ADMIN
- Location : New England, US
Registration date : 2009-03-08
Number of posts : 6987
- Post n°25
Re: My unknowns
Interesting. It looks to be most similar to Finnish, but I can't match it to any pictures I have. Remember the later type of Finnish camouflage is "rounded" while the earlier types are more "geometric".
Steve
Steve