Mylle's Austrian Stuff

Yup, that's what I figured. So really, any date is legitimate. I'm guessing the Border Guard put in an order for X of this size, Y of that size, Z of this size, etc. and that is what the military delivered. They would be selecting for size and possibly condition, not date. Only us collectors are that fussy

Nice tanker jacket! I assume there are special trousers as well?

Steve

Here is a pic of soldiers with the tanker jacket, they seem to have specific pants without leg pocket flaps.But I also saw soldiers
wearing this jacket with the normal KAZ 03 pants,maybe Philip knows more.

http://www.bundesheer.at/misc/image_popup/ImageTool.php?strAdresse=/pool/img/20160127_085444.jpg&intSeite=1680&intHoehe=1050&intMaxSeite=1680&intMaxHoehe=995&blnFremd=0

Another super fresh KAZ 69 jacket:

Usually not my collection-focus, but I thought it could be interesting to show
the small differences on Austrian canteens, covers and cups.

Nice! I've only ever seen the two camouflage types you have + the medic cover. My guess is that's all there is to collect?

The canteen design seems to have been pretty stable for the 1960s and 1970s. I've only had a few and haven't noticed any differences in details.

Steve

Yes, the medic version with the leather strap is missing in this pic. I also guess
there are only those 3 types of the camo covers.

KAZ 59 Drillichshirt in unissued condition:

Wow... what a surprising acquisition! I totally didn't see that coming

Seriously, that is a beautiful shirt. I look forward to getting it's brother in my hands.

Now I just wish I could find a 1958 dated example...

Steve

Well, I thought It could be wise to get one too....
And finally I have something to put the spare old rank insignias on.
Guess to find examples from 1958 is as hard as finding matching pants....

Since it took me almost 15 years to find the pants, I hope you're wrong

Steve

M56 fieldcap showing the rank of a Colonel. Personal name writen on the inside.

Almost as ugly as my Gebirgskappe

No, the current ones are even uglier IMHO.
Something between wannabe old school.

mylle wrote:I'm back from my shopping tour at my favourite camo-clothing wonderworld in Vienna so that's the new stuff!

Ladies(?) and Gentlemen!, I proudly present:

KAZ 57 Parka from 1958!!!
There are many interesting details(full collar etc.).







Don't know what thats for:



Note the loops for foliage!





Small pocket on the back



Strange rank sleeve thing?Just on one side.







Tanker Jacket with fixed hood!Stamp isn't readable anymore.









KAZ 57/59 Pants but without  integrated belt.












Field cap.It was never offical issued but often worn.They were made out of tent-blankets by the barracks tailor-shops.

Thats the same type of Parka I was trying to describe in my other post.

Well, you have a very cool piece then! The KAZ 57 paka is a must have.

I'm jealous of anybody that has the original shoulder roll (I forget the Austrian nickname for it) on the KAZ M57 jacket.  This is to help keep a rifle strap from slipping off the shoulder and is probably the last uniform in the world to try to use it.  They were mostly removed by the soldiers at the time of issue or they were moved when shoulder straps were retrofitted onto them in the early 1960s. As a result there's few that still have them present.

Steve

Yeah I'm also happy that the original roll is still there, I had a second parka where the roll was removed and the shoulder straps added. The roll is a quite funky feature.

I had never even known that the roll existed on this uniform before now.

As Steve said before, the use of them wasn't really there so I guess not many intact ones survived.
I only saw one so far and thats the one I have.

Ok so... Steve best if you close your eyes for this....




are they closed yet!!..........





Ok so here's my KAZ 57 parkas with both the original shoulder roll, and the modified shoulder strap (note original stitching for the roll still visible under the new fabric rank strap!!!)
I have another KAZ 57 its very faded and worn and It been field modified where the full collar, hood have been removed .. and IIRC...... there is no rank straps either!!!...

Welcome to the club! Lovely pieces.

Just found my HBA 1958 dated modified KAZ 57...... its not that bad of a tidy up job (guess the hood got caught and torn...) even retaining the storm collar flap and buttons!! note Wear to collar this has been well worn in this configuration and repaired patches all over..... even the sleeves have threadbare repairs!!! someone really didn't want to let go of this Jacket when in service!!!!

Heh, yeah, I've already figured out everybody has one with the sausage roll except for me. Having just looked at my collection again I think I'm still doing OK with fun things

Neat that you have such a clear outline of where the sausage roll was removed. Interesting that your jacket has exposed buttons for the epaulets. Usually they were identical to M59 (hidden button), hidden snap, or exposed snap. Such variations!

Yup, that hoodless M57 was done right. Maybe someone was trying to make it look like a WW2 3rd Reich FJ bonesack? Either that or it is as you suggest where the hood was beyond repair and someone took the time to make it serviceable.

Steve

Don't worry too much Steve ...im sure you'll find one.. with your connections, sometime... and like you say you have many, many other treasures to look at!!!!!
I hadn't thought about the TR replica aspect......but cant see any evidence of fictitious badging going on anywhere!!!
guess some of the establishment of the Bundesheer, didn't like the look of the unsightly, and out of place big plastic buttons on the modification rank straps...perhaps the reason for the hidden type!!
I also have a KAZ 59 parka that has been modified into a kind of half parka!!??? as in the usual bottom half removal to include the flap..has not occurred...... instead the flap has been trimmed and reshaped!!!??? and is still (in a fashion) functional!!??? ill have to dig it out for another look!!

Modifications were a common practice. KAZ 59 parkas shortenend to KAZ 69 length,KAZ 59 with modified cuffs and length, Hood removed, zippers added (look at my KAZ 69 jacket with DAZ75 fieldjacket zipper) etc., there are tons of variants out there. If you start collecting them, you will need an own house just for this stuff. I somewhere saw a shortened KAZ 59 parka with pockets added on the back like on a smock....